On Same-sex and Extended Marriage

[Tahuti]

My country legalized full same-sex marriage about five years ago and I cannot see that my own (pre-existing, hetero) marriage has been noticeably hurt by this. Nor has our ability to breed (two of our three children have been born since then).

I don't think the anti-gay marriage crowd believes that gay marriage necessarily hurts other marriages, just that it is a threat to society at large. Same reason why they oppose contraceptives.

 

[El_Machinae]

I think they'll say anything as they learn to refine their message over time

 

[Tahuti]

Most are pretty screaming.

 

[warpus]

By depreciating marriage and family institutions, shifting their orientation.

Are you saying that when homosexual marriage is legal, straight people are going to start turning gay?

Maybe you're afraid that when homosexual people are able to walk down the street without being harassed and when society starts treating them like regular people who don't deserve any hate, you won't have any more reasons to not come out of the closet. That's the only context in which this makes sense to me.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Other rights are theirs by default. Actually, marriage and having children too. They just want to modify every right to suit their perversity.

You are an idiot who talks bollocks.

More people will succumb to homosexuality being encouraged by the revised institution.

Arsegravy.

 

[Narz]

I haven't read the full OP but I do agree group marriage should be acceptable & legal. Monogamy so rarely works it's very strange to fetishize it in a legal ceremony. Marriage people shouldn't have any extra benefits, let whoever marry whoever else & take the matter out of the state's hands entirely.

 

[Aleksey_aka_al]

Are you saying that when homosexual marriage is legal, straight people are going to start turning gay?

More kids will turn gay. Sexual and marriage behaviour is not intrinsic it comes through socialization and mimicking adults.

 

[Tee Kay]

Even if that's true it's not a Bad Thing.

 

[Aleksey_aka_al]

The West terrorizes and blackmails other cultures to force its perception of good and bad. Which is a Bad Thing.

And many things the West enforces on others, such as treatment of homosexuality, are a recent development from a few years to a few decades old and are not applicable to the West in full. Which makes this Bad Thing especially bad and especially hypocritical.

 

[Tee Kay]

A culture that demand people who sleep with people of the same gender be ostracised/imprisoned/killed deserve to be changed.

I'd actually love it if the West actually enforces its supposed values as you described. Governments persecute and murder homosexuals and transexuals with impunity and the West does about as much as send a strongly worded letter, if that.

 

[El_Machinae]

More kids will turn gay.

This reminds me of another poster who had this stance. Turns out, the guy was latently bisexual and had to fight his 'urges' for men on an ongoing basis.

 

[Aleksey_aka_al]

How about we change it a bit:

A culture that demands other cultures, which have different attitude to gender and family, to be ostracised/sanctioned/bombed deserves to be changed.

 

[Tee Kay]

A culture that demands other cultures, which have different attitude to gender and family, to be ostracised/sanctioned/bombed deserves to be changed.

Cultures don't have rights. Humans do.

"Cultural rights" is usually just a synonym for oppression.

 

[Aleksey_aka_al]

Right is the subject of a specific jurisdiction and to a way of a specific culture.

 

[Arwon]

More kids will turn gay. Sexual and marriage behaviour is not intrinsic it comes through socialization and mimicking adults.

This is lunacy.

 

[Aleksey_aka_al]

You are an idiot who talks bollocks.

Arsegravy.

This reminds me of another poster who had this stance. Turns out, the guy was latently bisexual and had to fight his 'urges' for men on an ongoing basis.

This is lunacy.

That's all you've got?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I got more if you want.

Ok Aleksey. Show me you're not an idiot.

Explain how gay marriage changes the sexual orientation of kids. What is the mechanism that makes kids who are attracted to the opposite sex change their orientation.

Explain how you're not an idiot by justifying your comment about perversion.

That evil Western media you go on about tells us about the homophobia that's quite common in Russia. You're doing a great job showing how right they are.

Lastly a question. I don't expect an honest answer. How many gay people can be found in your social circle? (plesse leave terrible pun alone)

 

[useless]

Genuinely surprised he hasn't trotted out the line of "Pedophiles/sexual abuse turn kids gay".

Also, on that subject, do you believe that's true?

 

[Tahuti]

More kids will turn gay. Sexual and marriage behaviour is not intrinsic it comes through socialization and mimicking adults.

Your sexual orientation is largely hardwired. Especially males.

 

[Aleksey_aka_al]

Your sexual orientation is largely hardwired. Especially males.

That's why they own each other in prison? Is masturbation hardwired too? Why do cats and dogs own toys and people's legs sometimes?

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