1. Firaxis celebrates the "Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month", and offers a give-away of a Civ6 anthology copy (5 in total)! For all the details, please check the thread here. .
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Old World has finally been released on GOG and Steam, besides also being available in the Epic store . Come to our Old World forum and discuss with us!
    Dismiss Notice

[R&F] Poll: which are the last 4 R&F civs?

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by WillowBrook, Jan 3, 2018.

Tags:
?

Which are the last four expansion civs to be revealed?

Poll closed Jan 5, 2018.
  1. Ottoman Turks

    76.3%
  2. Mali/Ghana/Songhai

    47.1%
  3. Kilwa/Swahili

    5.0%
  4. Zulu

    17.9%
  5. Carthage

    22.5%
  6. Inca

    83.8%
  7. Georgia

    35.4%
  8. Italy

    21.7%
  9. Byzantine Empire

    12.5%
  10. Maya

    8.8%
  11. Portugal

    6.3%
  12. Celts (in some form)

    6.7%
  13. Phoenicians

    5.0%
  14. Other South America

    1.7%
  15. Other Central America/Caribbean

    0.8%
  16. Other North America

    5.0%
  17. Other Africa

    11.3%
  18. Other Middle East

    4.6%
  19. Other Europe

    9.6%
  20. Central Asian

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  21. Southeast Asian

    1.3%
  22. Oceanian

    4.6%
  23. Other

    0.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Wingednosering

    Wingednosering Prince

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2011
    Messages:
    536
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Toronto
    I've seen it suggested elsewhere that the gladiator fight scene was probably referencing the new 'bread and circuses' loyalty city project.
     
    Siptah and nzcamel like this.
  2. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2016
    Messages:
    5,489
    Location:
    Lucerne
    And the plague is for dark ages, while the fall of the Berlin Wall stands for heroic ones (even if this can be disputed very much in reality).

    That said:
    Muisca
    Ottomans
    Karem-Bornu
    Assyria

    (More new civs...)
     
    Prester John 2 likes this.
  3. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,658
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New York City
    I think you mean Kanem-Bornu.
     
  4. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2016
    Messages:
    5,489
    Location:
    Lucerne
    I mean spellcheck (that changed it to Karen all the time...)
     
  5. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2004
    Messages:
    3,454
    Location:
    Chicagoland
    Where are those images of Georgian dress that matches those in the trailer? Could someone link or repost for the doubters in this thread?

    I'm not saying it's certainly Georgia in the trailer, but the resemblance is striking. But I'm not combing through the whole R&F General discussion thread to find them.
     
  6. DeutschDachs

    DeutschDachs Emperor

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2013
    Messages:
    1,014
    Location:
    Milwaukee, WI
    They can capture cities that are very close to them. It can be very useful if you're allied with a CS and can let them take the city you're seiging to avoid warmonger penalties!
     
  7. Quis

    Quis Chieftain

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2016
    Messages:
    63
    Location:
    Germany
    Here is my comparison:

    Georgia.png
     
  8. anandus

    anandus Errorist

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2005
    Messages:
    3,859
    Location:
    Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Oh, yeah, forgot about that, you're right!
     
  9. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,658
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New York City
    I voted for the Ottomans, Italy, some form of Celts, and Georgia.

    I'm not too confident that either an African Civ (Mali, Ethiopia) or the Inca would appear in this expansion. I bet the Netherlands aren't the only European Civ in R&F. There has to be at least another European Civ.

    I'm anticipating most of my guesses to turn up wrong. :p
     
  10. PhilBowles

    PhilBowles Deity

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    5,333
    What's the source for the original photo, and what period are they re-enacting? These seem later-than-medieval uniforms. The resemblance isn't striking so much as 'slightly more than superficial' - there's enough detail to the models to make it unclear why they depart quite so far from the full pattern of the armband or hat design in favour of something more stylised, and the model of the soldier viewed from the front bears no resemblance to the uniform in the photo: the model seems to be plain blue aside from a gold fringe to the (low) neck.

    To me that suggests that there's a culture that shared similar uniforms which is more likely - using this to infer Georgia is similar to using Polish uniforms to infer Hungary because the uniforms are similar, as although they're far closer than anything I found in a search for medieval Georgian uniforms they're evidently different enough to represent a different nation.
     
  11. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2004
    Messages:
    3,454
    Location:
    Chicagoland
    There was another image of pairs of people in various outfits as well that someone else found.
     
  12. DWilson

    DWilson Where am I? What turn is it?

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2012
    Messages:
    1,924
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Milwaukee, WI, USA
    Are the Ottomans European or Asian?
     
  13. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,658
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New York City
    I would count them as Asian, specifically Western Asian/Middle Eastern.
     
    nzcamel, Zaarin and DeepKing like this.
  14. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2010
    Messages:
    16,050
    They aren't reenacting anything. That's the traditional garment for the Khevsur region inside Georgia. The people still practice martial arts using a broadsword and small buckler (as seem on the two warriors that the Father and Daughter dispatch a few seconds earlier in the trailer). Apparently, the Khevsureti people are extremely tradition-bound. I think Firaxis was going for a simplified version of the modern appearance.
     
  15. 6uho Koe

    6uho Koe Warlord

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2016
    Messages:
    124
    I'm still somewhat skeptical of inclusion of Georgia, though I really want to see them in there. However, I noticed this detail that made me more convinced these are based on Georgian soldiers. This soldier's shield appears to be based off of the shield they use in traditional dances. They are very small and I'm not sure they ever used them in battles like that against the Mongols. But it is very likely the costume design, as it with most of the cultures depicted in the game, like eagle said, are modernized and simplified versions of traditional costumes from reenactments, dances, dramas, etc.
     

    Attached Files:

    Meluhhan, Kheznik, Guandao and 4 others like this.
  16. PhilBowles

    PhilBowles Deity

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    5,333
    Bucklers were fairly widely-used in Europe during the Mongol period, so that itself isn't conclusive. I'd like to think Firaxis has better source material to work from than modern folk dances, especially as medieval images of Mongol conflicts against many of their rivals exist.
     
  17. MaximusPlatypus

    MaximusPlatypus O.O

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2016
    Messages:
    654
    Location:
    the great city-state of Chicago
    I was actually a little disappointed when I saw Yerevan as a city-state early on. It took them 5 iterations to get Assyria in; there is definitely a niche for Armenia.
     
    nzcamel, Zaarin and Siptah like this.
  18. seasnake

    seasnake Conquistador

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2006
    Messages:
    1,885
    Location:
    California, United States
    I voted Inca, Georgia (because I think the developers like a good joke), Zulu and Hittite.
     
  19. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,658
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New York City
    Yerevan was spotted as a City-State in Rise & Fall videos?
     
  20. MaximusPlatypus

    MaximusPlatypus O.O

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2016
    Messages:
    654
    Location:
    the great city-state of Chicago
    I haven't followed the development cycle since earlier on; I meant a year ago at release
     
    nzcamel likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page