Young white male gamers hostile to feminism and intersectionality. Doesn't matter if their political views are economically leftist.
Phew, dodged that bullet by being female.Young white male gamers hostile to feminism and intersectionality. Doesn't matter if their political views are economically leftist.
Young white male gamers hostile to feminism and intersectionality.
The poking fun part is clearly a manifestation of male fragility - an unwillingness g to engage and address their own sexism. Mocking genuine issues is a mask for insecurities. I can point out my own brother who dealt with this despite being a Bernie Bro.So poking fun and making comedy skits is now "hostility"? Seems like you need to take your own advice and get out of your comfort zone to understand life perspectives.
EDIT: Also, your generalizations of white males makes you both racist and sexist.
The poking fun part is clearly a manifestation of male fragility - an unwillingness g to engage and address their own sexism. Mocking genuine issues is a mask for insecurities.
a) I'm a white male myself,
c) I am referring to the gamer demographic and culture in particular that is responsible for sites like Reddit, a certain chan, and gamersgate.
That would be like accusing a POC of being racist because they points out examples of institutional racism, or a woman pointing out the rampant sexism of fraternities.
I don't know about this. Chris Ray Gun is pretty selective about the things he makes fun of, and usually has a good rational behind his arguments. He also doesn't have any problems making fun of himself and his own shortcomings, that doesn't sound like a fragile person at all to me.The poking fun part is clearly a manifestation of male fragility - an unwillingness g to engage and address their own sexism. Mocking genuine issues is a mask for insecurities. I can point out my own brother who dealt with this despite being a Bernie Bro.
That's not an excuse at all.a) I'm a white male myself
No it doesn't, that's idiotic. Institutional racism makes only sense when, you guessed it (probably not), talking about institutions. When we're talking about individuals, in this case, your racist generalizations, we stick to the good old definition, and what you've said most certainly fits that definition.b) racism in that sense refers to institutional racism which is by definition against those without privilege, and is not the same as prejudice
"For sites like Reddit"? What? With the exception of TheDonald, the large subreddits are all HEAVILY left-wing, have you ever been there? And "gamersgate"? Can't even get the name right?c) I am referring to the gamer demographic and culture in particular that is responsible for sites like Reddit, a certain chan, and gamersgate.
Well yeah, if that POC then starts talking about how white bois are the devil, and how every single one of them, including all of those who hold no institutional power, and all of those who he has never met, is a terrible person, then that POC is a racist POS.Misogyny is rampant there. You can't accuse someone of being sexist by pointing out a sexist culture. That would be like accusing a POC of being racist because they points out examples of institutional racism, or a woman pointing out the rampant sexism of fraternities.
Getting out of your comfort zone to understand life perspectives that are different from yours which make you uncomfortable is part of growing up. (And no, having a different political viewpoint based off of discrimination towards the underprivileged doesn't count as a "life perspective".)
So if someone doesn't share your opinion, it's because he can't get out of his comfort zone and hasn't grown up ?Young white male gamers hostile to feminism and intersectionality. Doesn't matter if their political views are economically leftist.
Poking fun is a healthy defense mechanism to deal with the stress of changes upon a person. Gaming is changing. It is rapidly shifting from a hobby that is male-dominated and focused upon majority experience to a much more inclusive hobby. That’s a big change for people whose identities have developed around the hobby; those guys need some time to adjust to it. That’s a stressor. Poking fun is a great way to deal with exactly that sort of stressor. As is critically examining the change itself. Those are productive means by which people adapt to changes; their presence indicates that gamers are adapting to the changing nature of the hobby.The poking fun part is clearly a manifestation of male fragility - an unwillingness g to engage and address their own sexism. Mocking genuine issues is a mask for insecurities.
Your argument was basically that Chris Ray Gun is a fascist because he doesn't like mainstream feminism, I don't see what's there to "rephrase". What you need to do in my opinion is not to rephrase your argument, what you need to do is rethink your position, because I think you've shifted focus from what probably once was a reasonable progressive position to a position that, in my opinion, is simply bigoted and indefensible.Mmm. Realizes that the language I used in that last post wasn't persuasive towards y'all POV and I'm not in the mood to engage in a topic that will induce the backfire effect and strengthen your opinions. I would've been turned off too a decade ago. I'll try to think of a better way of rephrasing.
That's not true though, core-gaming is still male dominated, and the percentage increase of women in core gaming is something like ~1-4%. The only major shift of demographic is age, which itself is not a factor that has changed because suddenly all kinds of old people have picked up gaming, but because the people who have already been gamers in their youth, are now becoming older. The backlash is not against a demographic shift, and it's not against women in gaming (Why would the new tomb raider titles for example be so highly rated for example if that were the case? Why would people love The Last of Us? etc.), the backlash is against people who try to force politics into gaming in a way that is not immersive in any way.It is rapidly shifting from a hobby that is male-dominated and focused upon majority experience to a much more inclusive hobby.
I think it's worth pointing out that this is irrelevant to the point you're making, in the context that you're trying to invoke it. It seems like you're saying that you can't possibly have racially prejudiced attitudes towards white males because you are white male, which is untrue. People are perfectly capable of harboring racial or gender-based prejudice or bias against their own race or gender. Frankly its pretty common. A simple, less inflammatory example is that as parents (particularly Dads), we tend to expect our sons to be "tougher" and we treat them more harshly/less sympathetically than our daughters, particularly when it comes to instances of physical pain. We do this because we harbor the gender-based bias that men are (or are supposed to be) tougher, physically and emotionally than women.a) I'm a white male myself
Exactly what you describe does, in fact, regularly occur in the discussions on this forum, ie., the old "Your false accusation of racial prejudice is, itself racial prejudice" argument. But I think those instances are a slightly separate issue than what you are raising. You are raising the "I'm white so I can't be prejudiced against whites" argument, which is more akin to the "See a black person agrees with my position, so it can't possible be a racially prejudiced position" argument, which is also very commonly made on these threads.That would be like accusing a POC of being racist because they points out examples of institutional racism, or a woman pointing out the rampant sexism of fraternities.
Correct.So? Just because you are the same race or gender of the people you hate doesn't absolve you from accusations of racism or sexism.
Correct... but I will add that I often find it very hard to get folks (not necessarily you, but frankly anyone) to join me in pointing this out when the "See a black person agrees with my position, so it can't possible be a racially prejudiced position" argument is being made... which I am hoping you might see is essentially the same flawed argument.That's not an excuse at all.
That's not true though, core-gaming is still male dominated, and the percentage increase of women in core gaming is something like ~1-4%. The only major shift of demographic is age, which itself is not a factor that has changed because suddenly all kinds of old people have picked up gaming, but because the people who have already been gamers in their youth, are now becoming older. The backlash is not against a demographic shift, and it's not against women in gaming (Why would the new tomb raider titles for example be so highly rated for example if that were the case? Why would people love The Last of Us? etc.), the backlash is against people who try to force politics into gaming in a way that is not immersive in any way.
Every backlash is about people who want to enjoy the status quo in peace. That's what a backlash is.It's a backlash of people who just want to enjoy their hobbies in peace, and not be educated on whatever cult decides that they need to force their message into any hobby they can get their hands on.
Kinda ironic that this is the gender-version of "I have a black friend...", isn't it?My wife plays waaaaaaay more videogames than I do if you include Smartphones. But I am 100% certain that she wouldn't describe herself as a "gamer" while I certainly would describe myself as one.
I'll just assume you got lost somewhere along the way, because this twisting of the narrative nonsense is not something I normally expect of you, so let me get you back on track:In the early ‘90s, plenty of people dismissed White Wolf’s Storyteller offering as not being true to gaming’s traditions. The Storyteller games brought in a ton of new people who were previously not interested in the hobby, including both a whole lot of women and a whole lot of people we now call LGBTQ. Overnight, gaming got super diverse as a whole lot people who wouldn’t be served by traditional gaming got excited about Storyteller games. Storyteller games went on to define contemporary portrayals of supernatural elements in popular culture.
Still, according to the grognards of the time, Storyteller games weren’t real gaming.
Pew, being primarily a US research institute, didn’t do any research into how many Scotsmen think they are true gamers.