Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Awesome!
Python Performance and Interface Overhaul (PPIO)
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irishhombre
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This modmod really does a good job of improving performance. I have noticed a considerable difference, thank you for such a great modmod.
Raven Destroyer
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it indeed helps performance, I especially notice it after alt tabbing out of the game,
Whenever I add the new tooltip to something, I reduce performance as I move code from the dll to python so that e.g. a buttons functionality is handled fully in python.. Python code is slower than the dll's C++ code.
So I feel it's important to optimize wherever it's possible, to retain some balance in the overall performance budget of C2C.
So I feel it's important to optimize wherever it's possible, to retain some balance in the overall performance budget of C2C.
Dancing Hoskuld
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This is a lie. Or at worst a mistake. Python code may be slower than C++ but C++ may also be slower than Python.
There is an overhead in switching between the two. All this overhead is attributed to Python when most of it is caused by poorly written C++ code.
As has been shown by Koshling this overhead can be increased greatly by bad coding in the dll. Increase the efficiency in the dll can reduce this overhead greatly.
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so I guess from what I can make up from what's said here, what Toffer is doing is moving things from badly written dll to optimized Python 
because I can at points notice the difference in speed, (outside of the obvious Pedia change, which simply is stellar in comparison to the old),
regardless, you're doing amazing work Toffer,
*edit* Found an interesting bug, when you manually change the working tile in a city the city UI will stop updating, so you can't switch between resources and Properties, the Buiding/Wonder/concepts tab same deal, the Specialists just up and disappear entirely, Food and Hammers don't change their value, and switching from one city to the next without closing the city screen would copy the hammer value of the other city,
you can still add things in the build queue fine,
because I can at points notice the difference in speed, (outside of the obvious Pedia change, which simply is stellar in comparison to the old),regardless, you're doing amazing work Toffer,
*edit* Found an interesting bug, when you manually change the working tile in a city the city UI will stop updating, so you can't switch between resources and Properties, the Buiding/Wonder/concepts tab same deal, the Specialists just up and disappear entirely, Food and Hammers don't change their value, and switching from one city to the next without closing the city screen would copy the hammer value of the other city,
you can still add things in the build queue fine,
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Most of my optimizations have been on the code that has always been in python, the stuff I fetch from the dll was pretty optimized the way I found itso I guess from what I can make up from what's said here, what Toffer is doing is moving things from badly written dll to optimized Python
Thanks for reporting this, it went right under my nose.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought compiled code utilized the hardware circuitry better generally.
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You are correct. Un-compiled code has to do what the compiler would do first, so is slower.
I think what DH was referring to, was the skills of the individual programmers. C++ should be faster if programmed correctly. If not Python may be faster.
Dancing Hoskuld
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Generally, perhaps, but not always. I have demonstrated this a number of times in my (former) working life (I am now retired) in real world examples with large to very large sets of data. It all depends on what the task is and the skill and knowledge of the person doing the coding.
colonelflag
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Hi Toffer90
Not sure what i'm doing wrong but i have no city UI or tabs when i double click on a city, only the list of possible buildings and units to build in this version and the previous to be precise. I have removed the Bug Main Interface.ini but to no avail. Any ideas ? (Am on SVN 9741).
Cheers
ColonelFlag
I'm not sure what might be wrong atm. I'll get back to you on the city glitches when I've had time to investigate.
In the meantime, could you take a look in the pythonErr.log file, I would like a copy of it if it's not empty, to speed up the debugging process.
The log file is completely emptied every time you start C2C so you will have to check it right after the error might have occurred in-game before you eventually start the game again.
Spoiler Anyone who might want to help me debug this modmod :
v0.5.7.6.1 - hotfix
- Fixed
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
I hope that soon this will be included in the Main files. 
Would save me some time with each update of the SVN. 
Good stuff here Toffer! And Thank you for doing this.
Would save me some time with each update of the SVN. Good stuff here Toffer! And Thank you for doing this.
v0.5.8
- I managed to get plot help to be displayed in my enhanced tooltip without apparent glitches.
- Thanks to TB's help on some dll changes that was necessary for this to work..
I'll need to hear the opinions of DH and SO before I merge this with core C2C.I hope that soon this will be included in the Main files.
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Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Worked eh? Awesome! Truly that's quite an achievement. Glad to have helped but you were the one to figure out how to make it happen.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Might be nice to have a few kinds of settings on that. Keep in mind that plot help interacts heavily with the chipotle cheatcode and hotkeys already so you might inadvertently cut off visibility of something if this sort of thing is pursued without care.
Dancing Hoskuld
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I am still having trouble with Windows 10 eating itself. Yesterday the XMLValidate program I have been using to check C2C's, and other mod's, XML has stopped working and I keep getting a message about one of the Win10 dlls not being for Win10.
Apparently I need to wipe the disk and reinstall Win 10 to fix things. This means making sure my backups are correct first.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
Having said that, if you split it into two projects one for the pedia and another for the main interface I think we could progress faster. If I remember correctly there was only one concern I still had with the pedia which I would like to see resolved before it gets merged. The work on the main UI though has a lot more issues, beyond my not being able to get it to work at all at v0.5.7.?.
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0.5.8 works like a charm for me
