Random thoughts 1: Just Sayin'

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^ I'm not sure why.
It's a concept. From an atheist's point of view you can't exclude something that doesn't exist.

That misses the point though. Some atheists, notably Dawkins and the late Hitchens, are/were actively engaged in trying to persuade people that religion (and the belief in God) is not only stupid but positively dangerous. And even, in Hitchens' words, the root of all evil.

Now, I'm not saying they're wrong to do so. But the religious are right to feel slightly under attack.

And maybe that's a good thing. Maybe it isn't.
 
I have a bunch of questions in response to your question
What?
Whatever dude, Vincour liked my post.
It's not that I don't like the post, it's that… I wonder what evolutionary advantage you already have in order to stand not having decent curtains.

Also, disregard Vincour's tastes until he stops saying nonsense about olives.
 
That reminds me of a memorable restaurant that sold minipizzas using paper napkins as disposable plates. The paper melded nicely with the cheese and dough.

Also, it's rather than OR just use ‘instead’. Heil grammern!
 
We were. Or, at least, I was.
 
Shouldn't things like black curtains and aluminum foil make the room hotter, since they absorb light rather than reflect it?
 
Apparently, it could be something to do with thermoregulation, or even aerodynamics. Possibly both.
 
I mean, it's a concept that can also be a lifestyle choice. And everyone feels under attack these days.

Next question: Why the hell do moths have powdery wings again, I forget

I thought that moths are hairy on their body and powdery on their wings for the same reason:
they are nocturnal and have no sunlight to help keeping them warm enough.
So in distinction to daylight butterflies they need more insulation.
 
Is atheism a concept or lifestyle choice that attempts to exclude God from daily life?

If it is a concept, then it is just in opposition to the concept of God. If it is a lifestyle choice then, it is just boycotting the reality of God. Religion may or may not have a handle on who or what God is, any more than an atheist declaring there is no God. In attempting to define God, would seem to be the only simmularity between religion and atheism. God really has nothing to do with how humans attempt to define any religion.

It would seem to me that both religion and atheism are just lifestyle choices. Neither have originated any concepts on the matter. Humans have always argued, they have experienced God, while others claim God does not exist.
@Arakhor: As long as the conversation doesn't veer into forbidden territory or yet another long argument, I would like to respond - since I'm usually the one who gets into these conversations in the first place.

@timtofly: To say that atheism is a lifestyle is completely misunderstanding it. Someone on the CBC comment boards once ranted at me about my "atheist lifestyle" (the article was about busing of public school students in a district of my province where the only elementary-junior high school available was a Catholic one, and the Catholic parents were not in the frame of mind to either share a single room of their school or be kind to the kids who would have had to travel a long distance to a non-Catholic school in another town; one vitriolic comment from one of them was "Suck it up or move!").

I have no idea what that woman was on about (I suppose she was imagining that I go out drinking every night, engaging in wanton orgies and criminal activities, and plan bible/church burnings - none of which I have ever done). It makes as much sense as asking you about your anti-Zeus lifestyle, or your anti-Raven lifestyle. My lifestyle is like anyone else's - I get up, feed the cat and myself, decide what to do for the day (usually the computer is the first thing I boot up, so I can check my email), watch my soap opera, maybe run a few errands, read a few fanfic stories, maybe watch a video or two (someone uploaded a bunch of Three's Company episodes, which is appreciated), watch some more TV, read a chapter or two in a book, do a crossword puzzle, do some prep work for NaNoWriMo, feed the cat again...

In other words, it's pretty basic stuff, most of which a lot of other people do as well, regardless of what their religious beliefs may or may not be. About the only difference in one of my typical days is that my typical day will never include going to church or praying. The closest I ever get to religion is the annual observance of Remembrance Day on November 11... and the script they follow in the Parliament Hill ceremony started to very obliquely include atheists a few years ago. The word itself isn't used, but the reference is there, and much appreciated.

So I hope this clarifies things for you, and let's not turn this thread into an argument.
 
@Arakhor: As long as the conversation doesn't veer into forbidden territory or yet another long argument, I would like to respond - since I'm usually the one who gets into these conversations in the first place.

Go ahead. It wasn't in colourful text, so it was only my opinion.
 
Is atheism a concept or lifestyle choice that attempts to exclude God from daily life?

There is atheism and anti-theism

One way of looking at atheism is first looking at theism (recognised/defined as early as begin 17th century)
theism being the conviction/belief:
"I belief there is something...... which includes a god or gods...... but I don't know exactly how and what"
It moved up over time into: "I belief there is something...... but I don't know exactly how and what"

I think that there is currently a huge amount of people being a kind of theist, without defining themselves in such philosophical words,
especially when raised in classic religious families and/or cultures, as so many in the secularising western world.

From there atheism is in first line:
"there is nothing........ no god or gods"
This was also the original meaning of the word/belief of anti-theism.

But anti-theism was highjacked by certain people to polarise it into:
"nothing good for the individual person or the society is coming from any religion"
And I get the impression that atheism is currently also kind of being highjacked into the direction of anti-theism.


In a fully independant/neutral position is agnosticism dating back to Pythagoras and revived by Huxley:
"Human reason is not able to tell me anything on a god or the spiritual/supernatural...... not proof it, not disproof it"

I think that the other huge amount of people not having a religion are agnostici (without knowing or using that word):
Kind of indifferent to it and when the facts show up, or they experience something special, they will take position.

In this view you end with the bulk of the people being religious, theist or agnosticists with some splinters
 
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