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Fluid ounces baffle me and this is in the UK, where we still use pints, feet and miles!

Quite the opposite of the French
If I remember correctly a paragraph in a book of Jules Verne (Hector Servadac ?), where he described that the coins of France were designed in such a way that a certain number of regular coins would be precisely the 1 meter of the 1 meter standard in Paris, and another certain amount of coins would add up to precisely 1 kilogram.
 
That's French efficiency for you. :)

I'd prefer we'd use only metric in the UK, but that's unlikely to happen for some time yet.
 
Quite the opposite of the French
If I remember correctly a paragraph in a book of Jules Verne (Hector Sarvadac ?), where he described that the coins of France were designed in such a way that a certain number of regular coins would be precisely the 1 meter of the 1 meter standard in Paris, and another certain amount of coins would add up to precisely 1 kilogram.
We have the 1p equal to 1/8 ounce, 2p double that. Very useful for weighing certain quantities of stuff....
 
We have the 1p equal to 1/8 ounce, 2p double that. Very useful for weighing certain quantities of stuff....

haha
So the modern 1p is alligned to the imperial ounce...
I must update my respect :)
 
That's French efficiency for you. :)

I'd prefer we'd use only metric in the UK, but that's unlikely to happen for some time yet.
I think we pretty much do.

There's only miles and miles per hour on the roads (don't see that lasting much longer).

And pints in the pubs.

Everything else seems to be metric. (Even though if you buy a "pound" of butter you're really getting ~450 gms.)

And I prefer it.
 
Apparently, the modern penny weighs 3.56 grammes, which is just a smidge over 1/8 of an Imperial ounce.
 
I remember when the currency was decimalized.

What a laugh that was!

All sorts of people panicking over nothing.
 
What is some good alternate history that isn't about the Nazis and/or Confederates winning?

I recognise that narrows the field somewhat.

Check out some of the stuff from Sea Lion Press. They've got quite a variety of alt hist settings (including quite a bit of British political alternative history, as the founders had a particular interest in that). My personal favourite of those I've read is probably Agent Lavender, in which the conspiracy theories of Harold Wilson being a Soviet agent turn out to be true.

Though if you're a cheapskate who would rather not actually buy the books, much of their stuff was originally posted on the www.alternatehistory.com forums, which, to be honest, is probably a better source of good alt hist than the vast majority of published books on the genre.
 
In the extremely hot summer of 1976 I was bicycling with some schoolfriends on holidays through UK, especially the hills of Wales. The ferns were brownish, our bicycle tubes making tracks in the new asfalt roads.
Hotter than hot....... and we saw along the road a small ice cream factory. They sold only per gallon.....
No idea how much that would be, but craving for something cold, we bought a gallon strawberry ice cream for the five of us..... more than 3.5 litre of ice :crazyeye:
So did you eat it all? :p

I currently have a 1.5L tub of cherry-chocolate ice cream in my freezer. That will last me the rest of the year, since I don't eat ice cream that often (but still crave it now and then).

Why did US change the gallon ???
Aside from historical reasons, changes are often made in order to make the customer pay more for less.

The flavored milk I get used to come in 350mL and 500mL sizes. Now the smaller ones are 310mL-325mL (depending on the flavor and brand name) and the larger ones are 473 mL.

The bottle of pop I'm currently drinking is a 710mL one of Dr Pepper. These used to be 750mL.

We have the same standard selection here, although occasionally we'll get weird flavours like curry or tandoori.
I've never had those flavors. They sound intriguing.

Back in the mid 90s they had Taco Bell taco supreme flavoured Doritos as well as Pizza Hut flavour. Both were amazing, and greatly missed. (single tear falls down cheek)
Doritos used to have cheeseburger-flavored chips. I loved those, so naturally they're the ones that got discontinued.

This is how I pronounce it.
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That's fluid ounces which is completely different.

32 ounces is approx 1 liter. I actually think a liter is a little more like 33. But for americans 8 fl ounces is a cup, 16 is a pint, 32 is roughly a liter, 64 is a 2 liter or half gallon, so it works for us.
So I ounce is about 32 mls if that helps.
Thank you. After doing a little math, I realize that their 20-ounce bottles are insanely overpriced. That's 640mL, and I can get a six-pack of 710mL bottles for $3.99 (plus deposit and enviro fee, of course) when it's on sale at my grocery store.

I bought the pop in the first place because I had a craving for root beer; that's something I don't have very often.

Fluid ounces baffle me and this is in the UK, where we still use pints, feet and miles!
Even after 40+ years, a lot of the people of my generation or older refuse to use metric. Our online weather network can be set for either metric or imperial (I have mine set for metric). Thank goodness for Celsius. Temperatures always baffled me before then - I knew that 68-70F was considered room temperature, and everything else was confusing.

So I think in Celsius, have no problem using either inches or centimetres, I don't fret about millimetres or millilitres, and have rulers and measuring tapes for both systems. I think in kilograms if I'm buying cat food or cat litter, but when it comes to my own dimensions/weight, I still think in imperial. If I'm going to order salad from the deli, it's easy to think in grams. As for miles and kilometres... I can think in both if I have to, but prefer miles.
 
The bottle of pop I'm currently drinking is a 710mL one of Dr Pepper. These used to be 750mL.

<3 Dr Pepper for life

Doritos used to have cheeseburger-flavored chips. I loved those, so naturally they're the ones that got discontinued.

Can relate; the stuff I like always gets discontinued.
 
Cheeseburger-flavoured crisps? What an idea.
So were my kids. What's your point?
That you're making me feel old, and being the same age as your children does not help.
What is some good alternate history that isn't about the Nazis and/or Confederates winning?

I recognise that narrows the field somewhat.
The Lord of the Rings.
Thank you for the translation. The last time I used non-metric measurements in everyday life, I was 9. I'm over 50 now, and while I still use some non-metric measurements (I still think in miles, inches, and feet - although I'll use centimetres and millimetres if I'm measuring small things), ounces have ceased to have any meaning for me, whether it's something solid or something liquid being measured.
It's a funny thing, how my minds seems to switch to feet and miles (but not gallons) when using English and then bounces back to metric when I change to other languages.
 
So did you eat it all? :p
Thank you. After doing a little math, I realize that their 20-ounce bottles are insanely overpriced. That's 640mL, and I can get a six-pack of 710mL bottles for $3.99 (plus deposit and enviro fee, of course) when it's on sale at my grocery store.

Even after 40+ years, a lot of the people of my generation or older refuse to use metric. Our online weather network can be set for either metric or imperial (I have mine set for metric). Thank goodness for Celsius. Temperatures always baffled me before then - I knew that 68-70F was considered room temperature, and everything else was confusing.

Well yes, from a convenience store or fast food place bottled pop is always expensive. Standard price for a 20 ounce bottle is $1.89, or 9.45 cents per ounce. Regular 12 pack of 12 oz cans of coke are $4.99 standard price at supermarket, or 3.46 cents per ounce, but that's regular price. They go on sale all the time, usually 3 for $10-12. At costco a 32 pack of 12 oz cans of coke is always $9 or 2.34 cents per ounce.

You know the markup is huge because that's where most gas stations make their money since the price of gas is regulated and/or extremely competitive. At my work they sell 20 oz bottles for $1.25. So obviously there's huge wiggle room in that price.

I don't mind metric for distances and weights and stuff cus everything divides by 100 which makes conversions simple and it makes sense, even if I have to do some math to convert. And it's more precise since my pound divides into 16 parts and I end up using fractions wheras a kg naturally divides into 100 grams for precision. Like the idea that a us mile is 5280 ft is just really, really stupid, it's so arbitrary. And a ft is 12 inches. So a mile is a very arbitrary 63680 inches. Um ok cus that's easy to divide by.

But I dislike Celsius because of that loss of precision. Freezing to boiling is only 100 degrees of difference, while on Fahrenheit it's 180 degrees. I guess you could say fractional parts like 72 degrees f = 22.22 c, but I don't think many people do that. Like to me 68 f or exactly 20 c is a very ideal temperature for me and what I set my house at, but simply going up to 22 c is now a balmy 71.6 f. I'm nitpicking obviously but it just seems like precision of temp is lost since most weather sites use whole numbers.
 
But I dislike Celsius because of that loss of precision. Freezing to boiling is only 100 degrees of difference, while on Fahrenheit it's 180 degrees. I guess you could say fractional parts like 72 degrees f = 22.22 c, but I don't think many people do that. Like to me 68 f or exactly 20 c is a very ideal temperature for me and what I set my house at, but simply going up to 22 c is now a balmy 71.6 f. I'm nitpicking obviously but it just seems like precision of temp is lost since most weather sites use whole numbers.

You are aware that we use whole numbers in our weather forecasts as well?

Besides, why does it matter whether Celsius has eighty fewer degrees between boiling and freezing? The kettle doesn't care either way.
 
And weather reports in Celsius usually display at least 1/10 of a degree anyway.
 
Cheeseburger-flavoured crisps? What an idea.

That you're making me feel old, and being the same age as your children does not help.
"The same age as my children"??? Takhisis, my cat is 10 years old. You're older than 10, but if you take the cat-human equivalent, you're younger than Maddy. In fact, according to the cat-human equivalent age chart I just consulted, even I'm younger than Maddy (by a few years; it says that she's about the equivalent of a 58-year-old human). However, keep in mind that this could be modified up or down depending on the general health of the cat (or human).

It's a funny thing, how my minds seems to switch to feet and miles (but not gallons) when using English and then bounces back to metric when I change to other languages.
Admittedly my use of both systems is a mishmash of what's comfortable and convenient. When it comes to land measurements, I still think in acres; I can't visualize how much a hectare is. And even though I know approximately how far it is from here to Calgary (it's not as far as it used to be, since both cities have expanded their boundaries), most people here don't express it in terms of distance. We tend to say, "Calgary is 90 minutes away from Red Deer" since that's how long it takes to drive there while going the speed limit (or reasonably close to it).

Well yes, from a convenience store or fast food place bottled pop is always expensive. Standard price for a 20 ounce bottle is $1.89, or 9.45 cents per ounce. Regular 12 pack of 12 oz cans of coke are $4.99 standard price at supermarket, or 3.46 cents per ounce, but that's regular price. They go on sale all the time, usually 3 for $10-12. At costco a 32 pack of 12 oz cans of coke is always $9 or 2.34 cents per ounce.
I made a mistake in my earlier post. The 6-packs of 710mL Dr Pepper I was talking about is actually $3.33 when it's on sale, not $3.99 (this is in CAD, and we have to pay deposit and enviro fees on top of that; the deposit is returned when the bottle is brought to the recycling depot).

The place with the 20-ounce pop I was talking about is Papa John's Pizza. I belong to their loyalty program, and last week they emailed me a coupon code for 10 points, which were redeemable until July 30. Since 10 points can be redeemed for an order of garlic bread sticks, I decided to use them, and also got a small spinach alfredo pizza and 2L of root beer.


I don't mind metric for distances and weights and stuff cus everything divides by 100 which makes conversions simple and it makes sense, even if I have to do some math to convert. And it's more precise since my pound divides into 16 parts and I end up using fractions wheras a kg naturally divides into 100 grams for precision. Like the idea that a us mile is 5280 ft is just really, really stupid, it's so arbitrary. And a ft is 12 inches. So a mile is a very arbitrary 63680 inches. Um ok cus that's easy to divide by.
:lol:

Yep, those figures are on everyone's mind every day, right? :lol:

But I dislike Celsius because of that loss of precision. Freezing to boiling is only 100 degrees of difference, while on Fahrenheit it's 180 degrees. I guess you could say fractional parts like 72 degrees f = 22.22 c, but I don't think many people do that. Like to me 68 f or exactly 20 c is a very ideal temperature for me and what I set my house at, but simply going up to 22 c is now a balmy 71.6 f. I'm nitpicking obviously but it just seems like precision of temp is lost since most weather sites use whole numbers.
I don't worry about the decimal points with temperature. I just know my comfort levels at various times of the year, and which point it's too hot, too cold, and how much of a humidex or wind chill I can tolerate. For example, -20C with no wind chill is a lot easier to tolerate than -15C with a wind chill.

Speaking of chill... it is actually a little chilly at the moment. I think we're going to have a storm tonight, judging by all those grey clouds in the sky.
 
And weather reports in Celsius usually display at least 1/10 of a degree anyway.
Er, which ones? I would say the point is with weather is that one degree in either scale is more accurate than you need.

For me temperature is a weird one. I can only do weather or cooking in Celsius, but body temperature in Fahrenheit.
 
So did you eat it all? :p

No... too much :o

The bottle of pop I'm currently drinking is a 710mL one of Dr Pepper. These used to be 750mL.

saw that the wine bottle was standardised as 1/5 of a US gallon, rounded from 759 ml to 750 ml.
So that one should be protected from commercial nibbling away of content
 
"The same age as my children"??? Takhisis, my cat is 10 years old. You're older than 10, but if you take the cat-human equivalent, you're younger than Maddy. In fact, according to the cat-human equivalent age chart I just consulted, even I'm younger than Maddy (by a few years; it says that she's about the equivalent of a 58-year-old human). However, keep in mind that this could be modified up or down depending on the general health of the cat (or human).
And…
Admittedly my use of both systems is a mishmash of what's comfortable and convenient. When it comes to land measurements, I still think in acres; I can't visualize how much a hectare is. And even though I know approximately how far it is from here to Calgary (it's not as far as it used to be, since both cities have expanded their boundaries), most people here don't express it in terms of distance. We tend to say, "Calgary is 90 minutes away from Red Deer" since that's how long it takes to drive there while going the speed limit (or reasonably close to it).
For me it's easier to think in hectares because Buenos Aires is built on a relatively regular grid so 100×100 mts. is a standard size for city blocks.

And yes, some people here use (in Spanish) ‘I'm (time) away’, rather than actual distances.
Er, which ones? I would say the point is with weather is that one degree in either scale is more accurate than you need.

For me temperature is a weird one. I can only do weather or cooking in Celsius, but body temperature in Fahrenheit.
Well, here the standard is to give out all announcements with at least 1 decimal spot.

That's a nice disparity you have there, btw.
 
Question for US residents:

You walk into a convenience store. What are the standard flavours of Lays potato chips that are always available? Exclude limited edition and regional varieties.
Literally (not figuratively) too many to count and list. That goes for just about any food in the US. It's cheap, plentiful and of endless variety.
 
I mean. There's only one choice. And that's sea salt.
 
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