Random Thoughts 3: A Little Bit of This, and a Little Bit of That...

[GoodSarmatian]

But under the assumption that this is correct, what conclusion would we draw from it? It would either mean, that all prominent people who were ever accused have been guilty, or it means that even innocent people who are the victim of slander will become the victim of further acts of slander after the initial accusation is out there. #woke

No, it means that rape and sexual assault are crimes that nobody commits only once. It's something you either don't do at all, or do/did regularly.
It's far more likely to be slander if there's only one accuser, but if more and more potential victims come forward the accusations become more credible.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Comic Sans is the worst font and legally can only be used in ironic meme formats

I spent years making lolpics on the Cheezburger site, using Comic Sans. I never used it for the serious ones, though, such as when a favorite celebrity died.

 

[Ryika]

No, it means that rape and sexual assault are crimes that nobody commits only once. It's something you either don't do at all, or do/did regularly.

That seems like a false claim to me. While it seems to be true that crimes like rape and sexual assault gain a lot of their prevalence from the fact that few people get away with doing it often, any statistic on the topic that I have ever seen also has had a sizable fraction of one-time offenders.

So I do think we expect the serial offenders to be much more often than the one-time offenders - not only because there's more of them, but they also have more victims each who could make the difficult step of being the first one to step forward - but to not see a single prominent case end with just one accusation seems statistically unlikely to me.

It's far more likely to be slander if there's only one accuser, but if more and more potential victims come forward the accusations become more credible.

...if each of them is plausible and has some evidence going for them, then I woul agree. if it's just 20 different accusations that are so vague that it's impossible to prove or disprove them with evidence though? Against a public person? I would disagree in that case.

 

[Hygro]

Comic Sans is the worst font and legally can only be used in ironic meme formats

That's some hipster ish that went normie and no one saw the bamboozle.

 

[Lexicus]

That's some hipster ish that went normie and no one saw the bamboozle.

It's the law dude don't make me cuff you

 

[Synobun]

It's the law dude don't make me cuff you

I can break these cuffs.

Hnnnnnnnnngnggrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh!

 

[Hygro]

It's the law dude don't make me cuff you

I guess you're just on the road to being cool, maaaaan.

 

[Snerk]

Nah he's just kinky like that.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Here's a thought:

Has there ever been a prominent #MeToo-Accusation that was not followed by dozens of further claims, many of them anonymous? I can't think of any, but to be fair, I did not follow the thing that closely - so maybe I just missed them.

But under the assumption that this is correct, what conclusion would we draw from it? It would either mean, that all prominent people who were ever accused have been guilty of not only one crime, but dozens, or it means that even innocent people who are the victim of slander will become the victim of further acts of slander after the initial accusation is out there. #woke

A lot of women are scared of making accusations, justified or not, against powerful people.
Not just in sexual assault cases where the law works to the advantage of the rich and powerful.

 

[Ryika]

A lot of women are scared of making accusations, justified or not, against powerful people.
Not just in sexual assault cases where the law works to the advantage of the rich and powerful.

Probably true, but I don't quite see how that's relevant to the observation I made. In most cases, you have no way of knowing if you're the only victim - cases such as Weinstein where it has been an "open secret" in Hollywood being the exception - so I'd still expect some people to come forward and be the only alleged victim of a person.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Probably true, but I don't quite see how that's relevant to the observation I made. In most cases, you have no way of knowing if you're the only victim - cases such as Weinstein where it has been an "open secret" in Hollywood being the exception - so I'd still expect some people to come forward and be the only alleged victim of a person.

If a person is able to get away with abusing their power they are likely to do so again so I don't find cases of serial abusers surprising especially when the person is influential. Once one person has come forward its easier for others to do so.
I'm pretty sure there are cases when only one accusation has been made but naturally the more sensational the case the more attention it gets.

 

[Takhisis]

Thank you!

I guess Impact works the same way...

It does!

Here's a thought:

Has there ever been a prominent #MeToo-Accusation that was not followed by dozens of further claims, many of them anonymous? I can't think of any, but to be fair, I did not follow the thing that closely - so maybe I just missed them.

But under the assumption that this is correct, what conclusion would we draw from it? It would either mean, that all prominent people who were ever accused have been guilty of not only one crime, but dozens, or it means that even innocent people who are the victim of slander will become the victim of further acts of slander after the initial accusation is out there. #woke

It's the type of abuse that tends to be compulsive/repetitive after a while.

 

[Synobun]

Gratification and power aren't one-time deals, typically. You want to keep having those feelings fulfilled.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Like this:

[FONT=Comic Sans MS] "When you are uncool that's the road to cool. When you're cool already that's the road to not being cool anymore. [laughs] So don't be afraid of that"[/FONT]

But you have to do it by hand.

You, sir, have set civilization back 50 years, if not more.

 

[Takhisis]

Try and picture a teenaged me, over a decade ago, playing GunBound while listening to Aqua.

 

[cardgame]

Probably true, but I don't quite see how that's relevant to the observation I made. In most cases, you have no way of knowing if you're the only victim - cases such as Weinstein where it has been an "open secret" in Hollywood being the exception - so I'd still expect some people to come forward and be the only alleged victim of a person.

It's a big risk to come out with allegations like these against someone rich and powerful. Once somebody else has shouldered that burden, the less courageous may be more willing to open up.

edit: to play a numbers game. Let's assume 10% of men are the bad apples here. If 5% do it once or twice and stop, and 5% are serial predators with 10+ victims, then in terms of being called out, it is extraordinarily unlikely that these men in power would be a one-and-done type of person by the numbers alone, to say nothing of their position in society and other "risk factors".

 

[Valka D'Ur]

It does!

It's the type of abuse that tends to be compulsive/repetitive after a while.

I didn't use Impact that often on the Cheezburger site. It didn't convey the proper emotional nuances in a lot of the lolpics I did.

 

[Broken_Erika]

It's the law dude don't make me cuff you

Nah he's just kinky like that.

 

[Broken_Erika]

She who has the power to wield the sword something something chosen one...

Girl, 8, pulls a 1,500-year-old sword from a lake in Sweden
An eight-year-old found a pre-Viking-era sword while swimming in a lake in Sweden during the summer.

Saga Vanecek found the relic in the Vidöstern lake while at her family's holiday home in Jönköping County.

The sword was initially reported to be 1,000 years old, but experts at the local museum now believe it may date to around 1,500 years ago.

"It's not every day that you step on a sword in the lake!" Mikael Nordström from the museum said.

The level of the water was extremely low at the time, owing to a drought, which is probably why Saga uncovered the ancient weapon.

"I felt something in the water and lifted it up. Then there was a handle and I went to tell my dad that it looked like a sword," Saga told the Sveriges Radio broadcaster.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45753455

 

[Ajidica]

She who has the power to wield the sword something something chosen one...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45753455