MathNerd
High on math (a, not e)
It seems we all agree on the FR thing, correct?
Realpolitik CIV - An Interactive AAR
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ilduce349
(Financial, Philo)
i would have done it if you didn't
mechaerik
Tuturuu!
I support Free Religion.
Many of you know I believe that Ireland is rightfully British territory; now it is in the hands of Russia.
As far as Im concerned, a hostile foreign power is occupying British territory; this is an act of war.
Many of you know I believe that Ireland is rightfully British territory; now it is in the hands of Russia.
As far as Im concerned, a hostile foreign power is occupying British territory; this is an act of war.
Celticfury
King
Mech, we cannot afford go to war at this time. Our military is still not yet capable of comfortably defending our own borders. What makes you think it can carry out a campaign on another landmass? The Vikings are also only a short trip away from Liverpool, which is defended by a single archer. In addition, if we start a war against the Eastern Bloc, there is as good chance that some Neo-Copperhead movement might sprout up, claiming to fight against Immortal imperialism and aggression. And they would have more support, as we would be the aggressors. I swear, this fascination of yours with the Emerald Isle will bring nothing but trouble.
MathNerd
High on math (a, not e)
Celt is right. There's no way we can get away with another war at this time.
I think we should belay war against them... for now. Once our armed forces are in shape, we'll probably have a good plan in place to strike at the Russians and reclaim Ireland for the English Republic.
ilduce349
(Financial, Philo)
WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER WAR ATM!!! LET THERE BE PEACE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS!!!!
I am glad that this time people agree with me
I am glad that this time people agree with me
eduhum
Aahh the gold old days...
If ravus sol just putted pictures in his books it would be much better!!!
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
True... this is the first forum i've used so i had no idea how to do anything when i started. (Does that make me old or out of touch?)
Each of the books has the post numbers for the pictures in them so i can always go back and start editing them in. Maybe a main character summery list as well... although that probably strays the line into extreme territory.
Course its getting harder and harder to keep it unbiased. Sheesh and i was hoping to be a backseat player.
Anyway i'll start slowly adding in the embedded pictures for the stuff. Thanks for pointing it out Eduhum.
Each of the books has the post numbers for the pictures in them so i can always go back and start editing them in. Maybe a main character summery list as well... although that probably strays the line into extreme territory.
Course its getting harder and harder to keep it unbiased. Sheesh and i was hoping to be a backseat player.
Anyway i'll start slowly adding in the embedded pictures for the stuff. Thanks for pointing it out Eduhum.
arya126
Squad Leader
HOLD UP! DONT AGREE ON ANYTHING YET!
Apparently my dad was impressed by my performance as a waterboy at the varsity game last night and has decided to unground me (for now). Ill be fairly active throughout today at least and will catch up.
IM BACK!
Apparently my dad was impressed by my performance as a waterboy at the varsity game last night and has decided to unground me (for now). Ill be fairly active throughout today at least and will catch up.
IM BACK!
MathNerd
High on math (a, not e)
Several things:
Yay! You're back!
No! You're back!'
We had a strong discussion over whether or not to post the plan on the thread. Eventually, Whosit decided that he would support democracy and posted the plan, but not before somebody launched some opposition actions.
Good job being a "waterboy" (whatever that is
).
Yay! You're back!
No! You're back!'
We had a strong discussion over whether or not to post the plan on the thread. Eventually, Whosit decided that he would support democracy and posted the plan, but not before somebody launched some opposition actions.
Good job being a "waterboy" (whatever that is
).
ilduce349
(Financial, Philo)
I really need to read the thread. When did this happen? Was it Arya?
MathNerd
High on math (a, not e)
Yes, you do need to read the thread.
Whosit
Entropic Knight
Well, Arya has been grounded for the last few days, meaning it's unlikely. I suppose we'll find out eventually. I've been trying to figure out who had something to gain, but I've come up blank so far.
Actually, we're in Organized Religion at the moment (assuming LH made the civic changes during the Golden Age), so we will lose that bonus. I will try and estimate how many hammers switching out will cost us.
MathNerd
High on math (a, not e)
I'd say we should wait until we have the basic infrastructure in our cities, then switch.
Whosit
Entropic Knight
Based on last year's numbers (city screens from the start of the term):
Liverpool
OR: 2 hammers (when building buildings)
FR: 3 beakers (@100% sci)
Setia
OR: 0-1 hammers
FR: 1 beaker
Antium
OR: 6 hammers (0 when building units)
FR: 1 beaker
Neapolis
OR: 1 hammer
FR: 1 beaker
Cumae
OR: 1 hammer
FR: 1 beaker
Plymouth
OR: 0 hammers
FR: 2 beakers
Arya-Kent
OR: 3 hammers
FR: 2 beakers
Birmingham
OR: 2 hammers (0 when building units)
FR: 1 beaker
Cull-Norwich
OR: 4 hammer (0 when building units)
FR: 1 beaker
Amsterdam
OR: 0 hammers
FR: 1 beaker
Ravus-York
OR: 0 hammer
FR: 3 beakers
London
OR: 4 hammers
FR: 4 beakers
Rome
OR: 3 hammers
FR: 2 beakers
TOTAL
OR: 14*
FR: 23**
*Not counting cities expected to build units for the foreseeable future.
**Only when science slider is at max
Organized Religions contribution is minimal except in a few cities, but it does contribute. Free Religion will give a small science boost, but also keep in mind the +1 for each religion in the city (small right now, since most cities have only 1 religion) and the diplomatic "bonus" for not being in a religion everyone else hates. Oh, and FR has Low upkeep compared to OR's High upkeep. Switching from Bureau to Nationalism and from Organized Religion to Free Religion will save us some money, too.
@MathNerd: We could switch later, but we'll save a turn of Anarchy by making a double switch, so if we can decide if we want FR, it would be better to make both switches at once.
If we weren't on the precipice of war, I'd consider building the Taj Mahal for another Golden Age (well, maybe still worth considering).
Edit: By some rough calculations, the fastest way to get the Taj is to have Antium build it. It will take 12 turns if the city is working all hills. Maybe a few more turns if it is not optimized for production. However, that is 12 turns of not building Catapults, so the Taj is going to cost us 5-6 Catapults. Is that worth it? I do not know.
Liverpool
OR: 2 hammers (when building buildings)
FR: 3 beakers (@100% sci)
Setia
OR: 0-1 hammers
FR: 1 beaker
Antium
OR: 6 hammers (0 when building units)
FR: 1 beaker
Neapolis
OR: 1 hammer
FR: 1 beaker
Cumae
OR: 1 hammer
FR: 1 beaker
Plymouth
OR: 0 hammers
FR: 2 beakers
Arya-Kent
OR: 3 hammers
FR: 2 beakers
Birmingham
OR: 2 hammers (0 when building units)
FR: 1 beaker
Cull-Norwich
OR: 4 hammer (0 when building units)
FR: 1 beaker
Amsterdam
OR: 0 hammers
FR: 1 beaker
Ravus-York
OR: 0 hammer
FR: 3 beakers
London
OR: 4 hammers
FR: 4 beakers
Rome
OR: 3 hammers
FR: 2 beakers
TOTAL
OR: 14*
FR: 23**
*Not counting cities expected to build units for the foreseeable future.
**Only when science slider is at max
Organized Religions contribution is minimal except in a few cities, but it does contribute. Free Religion will give a small science boost, but also keep in mind the +1
for each religion in the city (small right now, since most cities have only 1 religion) and the diplomatic "bonus" for not being in a religion everyone else hates. Oh, and FR has Low upkeep compared to OR's High upkeep. Switching from Bureau to Nationalism and from Organized Religion to Free Religion will save us some money, too.@MathNerd: We could switch later, but we'll save a turn of Anarchy by making a double switch, so if we can decide if we want FR, it would be better to make both switches at once.
If we weren't on the precipice of war, I'd consider building the Taj Mahal for another Golden Age (well, maybe still worth considering).
Edit: By some rough calculations, the fastest way to get the Taj is to have Antium build it. It will take 12 turns if the city is working all hills. Maybe a few more turns if it is not optimized for production. However, that is 12 turns of not building Catapults, so the Taj is going to cost us 5-6 Catapults. Is that worth it? I do not know.
MathNerd
High on math (a, not e)
Yeah, I'd say switch. We could try getting some Hindu and Buddhist dudes over into our lands by OBing with some people.
ilduce349
(Financial, Philo)
Get Taj! Get Taj!
We don't need that many cats considering we are not dowing them but waiting for them to dow us. Also a golden age will really help us modernize the economy. The wonder is worth it.
We don't need that many cats considering we are not dowing them but waiting for them to dow us. Also a golden age will really help us modernize the economy. The wonder is worth it.
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