SCOTUS Nomination II: I Like Beer

[hobbsyoyo]

A woman put a protest sign in her yard. The police threatened to arrest her and confiscated it. It would be amusing if it wasn't a horrifying arbiter of what may be around the corner. I hope that the may is far fetched and this is an isolated incident but I guess we'll see.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...kirt-police-seized-it/?utm_term=.6f151d5521bf

 

[Timsup2nothin]

A woman put a protest sign in her yard. The police threatened to arrest her and confiscated it. It would be amusing if it wasn't a horrifying arbiter of what may be around the corner. I hope that the may is far fetched and this is an isolated incident but I guess we'll see.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...kirt-police-seized-it/?utm_term=.6f151d5521bf

Reading the story we see the typical GOP at work "oh no, there was no threat of arrest, she just asked the officer to take the sign." The magnitude of the whopping lie that is the backbone of the GOP is such that this kind of mindless expectation of credibility in smaller lies is just normal.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

And of course they had no right to ask her to remove the sign, much less steal it.

We argue over their lies while they go ahead and repress our civil rights.

 

[bernie14]

This is non-responsive. These are specific, high profile actions that to any reasonable person constitute a huge moral failing - specifically, permitting sex criminals to occupy high ranking seats of power within the party. Including the president, if you want to be real about it
.

Which president are you talking about? Voldemort?

, answer the question. Rationalization is a universal human trait. I'm not asking IF people can rationalize it - people can rationalize anything. I'm asking you to dig deeper, look at the moral underpinnings of the Republican party over the last 2 years, and tell me how it is anything other than a complete and utter moral failure

it is anything other than a complete and utter moral failure?

 

[adcarrymaokai]

Those things were done in an environment where they could be effective. That environment no longer exists. Without the very realistic concerns about "your cities will burn" MLK's peaceful march would have been a fart in the wind, and pretty much everyone knows it.

Ok, but you agree that at least in that environment the courts were pressured?

And I mean, I am pretty ready to loot and burn and smash, how many Americans aren't at this point in time? The economic situation will get only worse, and people's anger will only grow. At least I hope it will.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

A woman put a protest sign in her yard. The police threatened to arrest her and confiscated it. It would be amusing if it wasn't a horrifying arbiter of what may be around the corner. I hope that the may is far fetched and this is an isolated incident but I guess we'll see.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...kirt-police-seized-it/?utm_term=.6f151d5521bf

Meanwhile,

 

[Angst]

Which president are you talking about? Voldemort?

No, he's talking about Trump.

it is anything other than a complete and utter moral failure?

Because you say so. Right.

First, you go full whataboutist. Then you just go blah.

 

[caketastydelish]

Ok, but you agree that at least in that environment the courts were pressured?

And I mean, I am pretty ready to loot and burn and smash, how many Americans aren't at this point in time? The economic situation will get only worse, and people's anger will only grow. At least I hope it will.

So you are saying things like the civil rights, you know, MLK's march on Washington, accomplished nothing? The court has to be pressured to do the right thing because they won't do it on their own. Especially not this court we are gonna have now.

U mad bro?

I hope this administration makes you suffer so much you find it unbearable. Take that, *****!

Go cry some more as this administration and new supreme court justice will rip your mind in two and tear your heart to shreds.

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[Timsup2nothin]

Ok, but you agree that at least in that environment the courts were pressured?

And I mean, I am pretty ready to loot and burn and smash, how many Americans aren't at this point in time? The economic situation will get only worse, and people's anger will only grow. At least I hope it will.

In that environment, sure. It just doesn't make any difference what worked or didn't in that environment since we are stuck with this environment.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Because Adams and Jefferson were committed to the democratic process. J and his ilk are not.

Remember, the five guys are following the basic tenets of democracy. The ones who find themselves temporarily in the minority make an effort to ensure that the path chosen by the majority works out as best for all as it can. McConnell in 2008 declared the GOP to be no longer committed to democracy. When the GOP became the nominal majority they continued the violation by basing their leadership in "this may not be great, but at least it will make the minority's heads explode."

So, J represents the anathema of the five guys; the abandonment of the democratic process. Being someone who recognizes that and understands the consequences, I am someone J would never associate with other than anonymously.

Adams and the Federalists were committed to packing the courts with as many Federalists as possible in order to thwart the public's will in a lame duck session after loosing the election in the landslide known as the Revolution of 1800.

This was of course after passing laws to let them arrest politicians from the other party for sedition for simply criticizing the president or members his cabinet. Only the VP, i.e., Jefferson, could be freely criticized with no fear of legal ramifications.

Adams supported fear mongering campaigns which claimed that Jefferson wanted to outlaw Christianity and burn all copies of the bible (except for the edition he edited to get rid of all supernatural elements).

Jefferson paid people to claim that Adams was an effeminate hermaphrodite.

Neither of them supported "democracy," but equated that term with mob rule by the uneducated rabble who ought to be guided by better educated elites. They just preferred different sets of elites.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Adams and the Federalists were committed to packing the courts with as many Federalists as possible in order to thwart the public's will in a lame duck session after loosing the election in the landslide known as the Revolution of 1800.

This was of course after passing laws to let them arrest politicians from the other party for sedition for simply criticizing the president or members his cabinet. Only the VP, i.e., Jefferson, could be freely criticized with no fear of legal ramifications.

Adams supported fear mongering campaigns which claimed that Jefferson wanted to outlaw Christianity and burn all copies of the bible (except for the edition he edited to get rid of all supernatural elements).

Jefferson paid people to claim that Adams was an effeminate hermaphrodite.

Neither of them supported "democracy," but equated that term with mob rule by the uneducated rabble who ought to be guided by better educated elites. They just preferred different sets of elites.

You might notice I said "democratic process," not "democracy." Or, you might not notice. It hardly matters, really. What matters is that the GOP abandoned the democratic process, and there isn't really anything to be done about it. Either they will be granted the authoritarian rule they seek, or they will be stopped through some process other than a democratic process...almost certainly involving vast spillage of blood.

 

[Arwon]

Meanwhile,

Yeah he's 100% laying the groundwork for violence

 

[Old Hippy]

. Either they will be granted the authoritarian rule they seek, or they will be stopped through some process other than a democratic process...almost certainly involving vast spillage of blood.

appropriate for CFCOT..."never bring a knife to a gunfight"
shouting" look at me you fascist racist sexist constitution waving authoritarian ... this is a gun free zone and safe space"
will not do much because the otherside will not be throwing ice cubes this time or crying and waving placards
they like guns ... in case you haven't noticed
just saying.... this is why they have defended their Constitutional rights since the last revolution

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Yeah he's 100% laying the groundwork for violence

appropriate for CFCOT..."never bring a knife to a gunfight"
shouting" look at me you fascist racist sexist constitution waving authoritarian ... this is a gun free zone and safe space"
will not do much because the otherside will not be throwing ice cubes this time or crying and waving placards
they like guns ... in case you haven't noticed
just saying.... this is why they have defended their Constitutional rights since the last revolution

That was fast

 

[Old Hippy]

That was fast

Just back from having my Sunday morning cappuccinos with the "hipsters" at the beach so I'm on a coffee high...

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Just back from having my Sunday morning cappuccinos with the "hipsters" at the beach so I'm on a coffee high...

You can't blame your bloodlust on the beans my dude. That's all you.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

Yeah he's 100% laying the groundwork for violence

Laying? Trump supporters have already murdered people in this country, not just once.

I like how he dropped "Soros" there. Just like Kavanaugh dropped "the left", "Clintons", and other dogwhistles that certain demographics find appealing. In the right's lingo, Soros is basically synonymous with the Rothschilds and the global Jewish conspiracy. But hey, he is friends with Israel, so how can he be covertly antisemitic.

 

[Old Hippy]

You can't blame your bloodlust on the beans my dude. That's all you.

its not bloodlust to point out to people the inevitable results of other peoples bloodlust... I'm praying they regain their sanity

 

[cardgame]

its not bloodlust to point out to people the inevitable results of other peoples bloodlust... I'm praying they regain their sanity

what bloodlust? right-wing extremists are literally more dangerous than islamic terrorism in this country. Left militias barely get a footnote on the subject.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

In that environment, sure. It just doesn't make any difference what worked or didn't in that environment since we are stuck with this environment.

So what the hell do we do now? I know people like to compare trump to Hitler, but Trump isn't Hitler, and we are not Germany. There are far important issues than even Trump himself right now, like climate change, which he denies and works hard towards accelerating. But he will die in ten or so years, and we will be left to deal with this planet falling apart, aren't we?

Actually, all these people in the White House are almost one step in the grave, so they certainly won't care what happens after they die, but I have my whole life ahead of me, and I don't to live through some kind of apocalypse. I even wonder how far people need to be pushed to take action? Life is still pretty comfortable for many people in the US, and if people aren't staging revolutions in some place like Russia or China, what are the odds that Americans will move their butts to restore democracy and American values?