Zardnaar
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Same with Tamara of Georgia.
Although argueably Tamara at least was more monarch than King. When it happened in some cases they had no concept of a female ruler so much they accepted her as monarch or King.
Sexist Game or Sandbox?
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Same with Tamara of Georgia.
Although argueably Tamara at least was more monarch than King. When it happened in some cases they had no concept of a female ruler so much they accepted her as monarch or King.
AdamCrock
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The first vampire !
Zardnaar
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Can't watch atm, Elizabeth Bathory?
Ironically, that list of Roman/Byzantine empresses doesn't include the empresses regnant Zoe and Theodora, the two nieces of Basil the Bulgar-Slayer, because they weren't empresses-consort.
SPQR is the Roman Senate and People. The Q comes from Populusque ("people and").
SPQR is the Roman Senate and People. The Q comes from Populusque ("people and").
AdamCrock
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Yes !
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In Roman/Byzantine Imperial ideology, a women fundamentally could not be basileus/Imperator. Imperial propaganda was fully wrapped up in the idea of the emperor as being a sort of 'father of the country' (that was even a title of the Roman Emperors and I cannot remember if that was carried over to the Byzantines) and a military general. While Empresses Consorts and Empress Regents could exercise extensive power (indeed, Procopius, who absolutely despised Theodora, ascribed to her Justinian's resolve in crushing the Nika riots) and at some times, such as with the daughters of Basil II were de facto emperors, outside of Irene, I can't think of any other women in Byzantine history who ruled as sole ruler.
@Arakhor, while pointing out Zoe and Theordora is good and noting the level of power and influence the Empress could have, a quick wiki check indicates that Zoe only ruled as sole ruler for about two months after one husband died and before finding a new one. The rapidity in which she found a new husband should to some degree indicate how Imperial ideology expected there to be a male Emperor and their lack of acceptance of a woman being sole ruler.
Absolutely. Zoe had three husbands and didn't really have much luck with her partners (or with her sister!), but I was merely noting how ironic it was that the list that was presumably posted to show female influence in the Roman empires left out two out of the three Byzantine empresses in their own right.
(Also, what sort of abomination is autokratess?? At least use autokrateira if you must employ the feminine version of the Greek title.)
AdamCrock
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Women have mystrious power over man , just imagine a women telling You to burn Rome 
What my point is , women are in power wheter we man like it or not.
What my point is , women are in power wheter we man like it or not.
Zardnaar
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Women have mystrious power over man , just imagine a women telling You to burn Rome
What my point is , women are in power wheter we man like it or not.
Mines in charge of me. I do the house work, yard work, cooking is split. She does the laundry.
She hasn't cleaned a toilet in 15 years, I'm cooking for her tonight.
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AdamCrock
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see ... I told You
bernie14
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My mom was the principle bread winner, my dad drove us around and did all the cooking (incredible cook!!). I am much neater than my wife, i wouldn't mind at all being a house husband at all
AdamCrock
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Yup, there's a certain kind of pleasure cooking for someone and seeing he/she enjoys it !
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Yup, there's a certain kind of pleasure cooking for someone and seeing he/she enjoys it !
This is the only way I enjoy cooking. If I cook for myself, I would really rather not.
Zardnaar
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Cooking for yourself sucks.
Relationships are a partnership IMHO, reality involves making her happy. 19 years next month.
She makes all the big decisions I suppose, I grew up poor if I have a roof over my head in generally happy.
Relationships are a partnership IMHO, reality involves making her happy. 19 years next month.
She makes all the big decisions I suppose, I grew up poor if I have a roof over my head in generally happy.
AdamCrock
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I am poor too. Just a man and his internet, and empty pockets, still am chasing my white whale , but it doesn't think I'm worthy enough . I think.
bernie14
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Sharing housework equally isn't the norm
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2019/jul/less-7-couples-share-housework-equally
Not convinced, heres the research
https://www.understandingsociety.ac.uk/
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2019/jul/less-7-couples-share-housework-equally
Not convinced, heres the research
https://www.understandingsociety.ac.uk/
Zardnaar
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Eh wife works more hours so I do it more with the exception of laundry.
Sometimes I do a 12 hour day then she usually cooks for me.
Cleaned the toilet and shower the other day, wife hasn't done that since we had room mates and a roster circa 2004. Also did the vacuuming ,cooking tomorrow although she usually does the salad.
Very really do laundry though and wife doesn't like how I hang it out.
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In OT topics like "how do you put your silverware in the washing machine" are both valid and interesting. We've made it to 12 pages in this thread, so it's hard to make the "not worth own thread" case. It seems like the kind of question that would straight up derail other threads.
If anybody other than the character you're controlling is having a good time in CK2 you're doing it wrong
.My understanding is that the people of the time called themselves Roman in the same way the larger east/west combined empire did, and that Byzantine is a newer term for East Rome that became common usage after the Ottomans ended their existence either way. Is that mistaken?
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The Byzantines were Romans and called themselves such. Byzantine is a pretty new term made up by historians to distinguish the Eastern half of the Roman empire which continue existing until the 15th Century and the Western Roman empire which collapsed in the 5th. A lot of that I believe was motivated by a general dislike of the Eastern Romans on behalf of Western European historians.
