Single Player bugs and crashes v38 plus (SVN) - After the 20th of February 2018

[Usul13]

I found a completely different bug. I know that the whole metals and animals thing is under a debate at the moment and this might became irrelevant when the issue will be resolved.

So the problem is I got some vicinity auto buildings in my cities at the start of the game. I tried a couple of starts and I saw elephant, iron, lead, platinum vicinity auto buildings on turn 0.

I believe these buildings should be built after the metals or animals revealed on the map.

 

[olduser]

Then why we have to tell players to delete cache?

I have it force disabled in civ4 ini config.

; Disable caching of file system (may slow initialization)
DisableFileCaching = 1

; Disable caching of xml and file system (may slow initialization)
DisableCaching = 1

I guess you did it on your side and somehow forgot to commit that

If someone only plays C2C and no other mods settings those to 0 would do no harm.

I definitely committed my changes because otherwise the Caveman2Cosmos/Assets/Cache directory wouldn't be empty.

 

[Usul13]

I can't set the Status Stay the Hand on my regular military units (Stone Axeman, Atlastist, Slinger) anymore. It worked in an earlier SVN version but I can't tell which update caused it to disappear. It's surely a recent change. It still works for my Hunters and Ambushers.

Edit: SVN 10321

Edit2: I think it was before SVN 10316. I think the bug was there today in my test game. I started my main game on SVN 10299 and I think I used this status in my game earlier so It happened after that but I'm not entirely sure. Unless I screwed up my game by downgrading to 10316 from 10319 and it caused the problem on my system.

 

[Thunderbrd]

The checksum code is used to check if the assets changed since a game was saved. If they did the modifier recalculation pop's up. However it doesn't seem to trigger sometimes and it does sometimes without any changes.

Since the modifier recalculation can't fix all the save compatibility issues caused by asset or code changes but instead gives the illusion of full save compatibility i would get rid of it and remove the lots of checksum code as well.

hmm... I'd prefer to keep the recalculator. It may not be perfect but it's a lot better than not having it. I did not realize checksums were tied to that. Makes a bit more sense at least why they would be there.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I found a completely different bug. I know that the whole metals and animals thing is under a debate at the moment and this might became irrelevant when the issue will be resolved.

So the problem is I got some vicinity auto buildings in my cities at the start of the game. I tried a couple of starts and I saw elephant, iron, lead, platinum vicinity auto buildings on turn 0.

I believe these buildings should be built after the metals or animals revealed on the map.

Not a bug. Very intentional that the tag he's using is able to sense the presence of the resource before it is even known to be there by the ignorant people living in the region. It relates to other planned uses for that tag, though its possible it may settle on requiring visibility at some point down the line as those plans may only be important before cities can be placed at all. (But I might need to piggy back off the code that determines validity for that tag for other things.) DH is using this raw vicinity tag in a rather un-prepared for manner to begin with, not that I have a problem with that. I find it innovative at least.

I can't set the Status Stay the Hand on my regular military units (Stone Axeman, Atlastist, Slinger) anymore. It worked in an earlier SVN version but I can't tell which update caused it to disappear. It's surely a recent change. It still works for my Hunters and Ambushers.

Edit: SVN 10321

Edit2: I think it was before SVN 10316. I think the bug was there today in my test game. I started my main game on SVN 10299 and I think I used this status in my game earlier so It happened after that but I'm not entirely sure. Unless I screwed up my game by downgrading to 10316 from 10319 and it caused the problem on my system.

Stay the Hand is definitely not to be accessed by regular military units who would then be able to use it to get through neutral territories on a Rite of Passage agreement.

 

[raxo2222]

If someone only plays C2C and no other mods settings those to 0 would do no harm.

I definitely committed my changes because otherwise the Caveman2Cosmos/Assets/Cache directory wouldn't be empty.

No one was talking about this place.

We were talking about other place.
C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\Local\My Games\Beyond the Sword
Here is cache folder with 1 MB of stuff.

 

[Thunderbrd]

@Toffer90 or whomever may be able to help with this:
We had a UI request come in that goody huts be given a glow for the benefit of colorblind folks. Anything we can do 'bout that?

 

[Toffer90]

@Toffer90 or whomever may be able to help with this:
We had a UI request come in that goody huts be given a glow for the benefit of colorblind folks. Anything we can do 'bout that?

I don't know, sounds difficult, but probably doable somehow.

 

[Usul13]

Stay the Hand is definitely not to be accessed by regular military units who would then be able to use it to get through neutral territories on a Rite of Passage agreement.

I remember using it on those units couple of days ago so it might have been buggy then. Or I remember wrong. Although in this case the Sevopedia entry inaccurate because it lists Stay the Hand Status among the available promotions for these units.

One way or another I report a valid bug about this.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I remember using it on those units couple of days ago so it might have been buggy then. Or I remember wrong. Although in this case the Sevopedia entry inaccurate because it lists Stay the Hand Status among the available promotions for these units.

One way or another I report a valid bug about this.

I'll try to figure out how it's crafted exactly. It might be technically available but then made impossible by a portion of code that invalidates a number of promos on background rules that are not checked on the same stream of checks that lead to the rough preview of possible promos that you see in the pedia.

 

[Harrier]

I recently made it so that Setllers (Unlocked at sedentary lifestyle) give one free cultural level to the city they found if the "1 City Tile Founding" option is active.
This means the 8 surrounding plots will always be available (within cultural border) to a city founded by a settler unit more advanced than the tribe.

NO! -This is wrong - please revert this change. If you want too, maybe add this change to the next upgrade level above settler. If others agree.

Your change makes this option almost useless. But is a very valid and good option for those who want to use it. Like me.

You should discuss changes like this in the discussion thread, instead of just adding it to the SVN.

 

[Thunderbrd]

NO! -This is wrong - please revert this change. If you want too, add this change to the next upgrade level above settler.

Was already addressed and changed

Also, I'd respond to your statement in the SVN thread but no posts outside of SVN log changes are supposed to be going there so I can't even reply to your statement there and must ask you to remove that post, as all of us have been asked to remove all posts that aren't SVN log changes.

Thanks!

 

[Harrier]

Done.

I thought modders were allowed to discuss SVN changes in that thread. But no one else.

Forgot to note down my original post, before deleting it. Old Age!

Send a PM if you want to discuss anything ese.

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[JosEPh_II]

I don't know, sounds difficult, but probably doable somehow.

Could their color just be Brighter? Or perhaps border darker? Just asking. You know like you did with the Grid lines.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I thought modders were allowed to discuss SVN changes in that thread. But no one else.

It's more that NOTHING else is to be posted there. Doesn't matter by whom. This is how SO prefers it and he even gets on me when I don't conform to that rule. In fact, the request has recently surfaced for us all to now go back and delete every post in that thread that isn't a commit note. It appears I'm one of the few who has done this.

Could their color just be Brighter? Or perhaps border darker? Just asking. You know like you did with the Grid lines.

Yeah, something to highlight them. I don't mind how they are but a VIP player made this request and I'm hoping we can find some way to honor it.

 

[Toffer90]

Could their color just be Brighter? Or perhaps border darker? Just asking. You know like you did with the Grid lines.

Anyone who can handle .dds files can reskin the tribal village goody hut improvement.

Attached is the texture file currently used for it in C2C.
Texture file path:

\art\structures\improvements\tribalvillage\tribalvillage.dds​

 

[Thunderbrd]

Anyone who can handle .dds files can reskin the tribal village goody hut improvement.

Attached is the texture file currently used for it in C2C.
Texture file path:

\art\structures\improvements\tribalvillage\tribalvillage.dds​

Simple as a .dds huh? K I should be able to do something there I think.

 

[JosEPh_II]

NO! -This is wrong - please revert this change. If you want too, maybe add this change to the next upgrade level above settler. If others agree.

Your change makes this option almost useless. But is a very valid and good option for those who want to use it. Like me.

You should discuss changes like this in the discussion thread, instead of just adding it to the SVN.

Actually there is still something not quite right yet. I started another new test game this afternoon and when I finally got Tribes I sent out one to establish a new city. The spot was 2 tile from the Cultural border of my capital. When I settled the tribe I immediately got 5 tiles instead of 1. I do have RCS Option On. I thought this was strange as the Culture bar in the city said level None and the hover over said it would take 3 turns, Normal GS being played. A while later I sent another Tribe and support group out to settle a spot across a mountain range and 3 tiles from my Capital's Culture borders. Same thing happened there. As soon as the Trilbe settled there were a total of 4 tiles under my Cultural influence besides the Main city tile. I did not use the Story teller for Culture but set it to Teaching. I have some screen shots.

Perhaps this is a Python reaction to the recent changes if RCS Option is On.

I will start another game w/o RCS On and when I get to Tribalism will see if it does the same thing this one is doing. There should be no additional tiles popped in a Normal GS until the 3-4 turns for the next Culture Level above None is reached. Please look closely at the screenshots. If savegame is needed will be supplied.

 

[Toffer90]

Perhaps this is a Python reaction to the recent changes if RCS Option is On.

That is not happening in python but in the dll, or perhaps in the exe, I don't know how much of the core cultural border mechanics are controlled by the dll or the exe.

It's been that way ever since the 1 tile option was implemented, I've seen it happen hundreds of times, maybe it has something to do with the BUG option that give cultural influence on plots through combat, or maybe it happens if a plot once had another cultural border previously.

Maybe it has something with how RCS work, that a bit of culture is added to all the plots in the cross, but not enough to claim all the plots, then when a city is settled close to the border those surrounding tiles have a little bit of culture from the other city and comes under the rule of the minimum border around city thingy or something.

Minimum border option probably work I something like this:
Go through all cities in a loop, go through all 8 surrounding plots in a loop, check if cultural ownership is above 0 for the plot, if yes then set cultural owner to whoever owns the city regardless of how little cultural influence that player has on the plot.

I haven't looked at any of the relevant code, just guessing here.

 

[Thunderbrd]

All I can say is nothing has been changed about culture in the code.