So much for the Shiite support...

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Looks like the only ethnic group that supports the US now are the Kurds in the North.

(BTW, this is not supposed to be something new, Shia support has been gradually decreasing since the invasion. Now it appears they're going to start their own insurgency soon.)

Iraqi Shias protest in holy city

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Shias have gathered in the holy city of Najaf for a mass demonstration calling for US-led troops to leave Iraq.

Up to one million people were expected in Najaf after an appeal by Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr, who branded US forces "your arch enemy" in a statement.

He called Iraqis to Najaf to mark four years since US troops entered Baghdad and ended the rule of Saddam Hussein.

Baghdad has been placed under curfew for the duration of the anniversary.

A 24-hour ban on movement by all vehicles, for fear of car bomb attacks, began in the city at 0500 (0100 GMT) on Monday, where four years ago a giant statue of Saddam Hussein was torn down, symbolising the fall of his regime.

Followers of Moqtada Sadr play a key role in Iraq, with the Mehdi Army said to be heavily involved in the sectarian conflicts of the past year.

However, the militia is reported to have stood down in response to a nearly eight-week-old US "surge", or security drive in Baghdad.

The cleric did not appear personally, but called for the mass protest in a statement issued on Sunday.

"In order to end the occupation, you will go out and demonstrate," he said.

He ordered Iraqis not to "walk alongside the occupiers, because they are your arch enemy" and to turn all their efforts on US forces.

But he warned followers against violence, urging the Mehdi Army and Iraqi security forces "to be to be patient and to unite your efforts against the enemy and not against the sons of Iraq".

Thousands of Shias responded by heading to Najaf, 160km (100 miles) south of Baghdad, in tightly-packed buses and cars.

Some demonstrators burned US flags and shouted slogans: "No, no, no to America... Moqtada, yes, yes, yes," they chanted.

Many demonstrators arrived in Najaf carrying the Iraqi flag.

"It will be an Iraqi demonstration in the name of all Iraqis," a representative of Mr Sadr told AFP news agency.

Cars were banned from entering the city for a 24-hour period but buses were carrying demonstrators to the city centre.

'Nationalist chord'

Moqtada Sadr's supporters hold a crucial block of seats in Iraq's parliament, giving them an influential voice in Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's government.

Correspondents say the symbolism of his call for thousands of followers to gather in Najaf, where he keeps his headquarters, may be a sign the cleric is preparing to return to the spotlight.

US officials say Mr Sadr has sought a haven in Iran in recent months as US troops began implementing the US "surge" against Shia militias and Sunni insurgents.

US President George W Bush is sending an extra 28,000 troops to Iraq, mainly to Baghdad.

Violence has continued with a succession of bomb attacks thought to be linked to Sunni insurgents, but Mr Sadr's followers have been largely quiet, Iraqi officials say.

However, renewed fighting flared over the weekend, as followers loyal to the cleric fought intense battles with US and Iraqi troops in the town of Diwaniya.

The US military, meanwhile, said six of its soldiers were killed on Sunday, including four in Baghdad

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/6537861.stm

CNN report
 
Thousands of Shias responded by heading to Najaf, 160km (100 miles) south of Baghdad, in tightly-packed buses and cars.
Looks like a recipe for disaster right there...
 
The Million Mullah March. I think this is great. Here are the Iraqi people, exercising those very same democratic rights to free expression that we've struggled so long and hard to give them.

So are we actually going to listen to them, and leave? Nahhhh, lets not get carried away.

How does the Bush 'logic' work again?

Bush: Heh, heh...they uh..heh, heh, wants us to leave. Thats why, hehe, we cant leave. See? We gotta stay until they dont want us to leave, see. Then we can leave, hehe...
 
Yeah well, their hearts and minds can take only so many massacres before they would turn against the occupation too.
 
Ah, of course, reverse psychology :p

@Winner: What I was implying was that such tightly packed cars and buses is an open invitation to any insurgent to drive right in and detonate a car bomb, or something similar, causing a very large amount of damage :(.
 
The Million Mullah March. I think this is great. Here are the Iraqi people, exercising those very same democratic rights to free expression that we've struggled so long and hard to give them.

So are we actually going to listen to them, and leave? Nahhhh, lets not get carried away.

How does the Bush 'logic' work again?

Bush: Heh, heh...they uh..heh, heh, wants us to leave. Thats why, hehe, we cant leave. See? We gotta stay until they dont want us to leave, see. Then we can leave, hehe...

OK, so you leave as they democratically demand, and then, with a support from Iran, they'll start a democratic genocide against the Sunnis.

So, what does your conscience has to say to that?
 
Ah, of course, reverse psychology :p

@Winner: What I was implying was that such tightly packed cars and buses is an open invitation to any insurgent to drive right in and detonate a car bomb, or something similar, causing a very large amount of damage :(.

I think our humane friend Sadr hopes so. There's nothing better than a good suicide bombing if you want to get more support from the people.
 
OK, so you leave as they democratically demand, and then, with a support from Iran, they'll start a democratic genocide against the Sunnis.
Possibly. Maybe even very likely.

So, what does your conscience has to say to that?
My conscience? What does my conscience have to do with Sunni and Shia Muslims carrying on their 1000 year old feud?
 
Well, I was under the impression you were saying that you should listen to them.

Yeah thats what Im saying, we should listen to them. We dont want to stay, and they want us to leave. Would be kind of silly to stay under the circumstances, dont you think? And no, I dont think we should stay in Iraq because this week our new reason for being there is that we're going to make Sunni and Shia Islam kiss and make up.
 
Yeah thats what Im saying, we should listen to them. We dont want to stay, and they want us to leave. Would be kind of silly to stay under the circumstances, dont you think? And no, I dont think we should stay in Iraq because this week our new reason for being there is that we're going to make Sunni and Shia Islam kiss and make up.

So in fact, you just want to leave and watch the show?

I suppose you'll look like complete idiots then.
 
Well at least they went out and protested instead of killing those that disagree with them.

Thats democracy at work. :)
 
I'm seriously waiting for the "See? These democratic protests are living proof that we're right to stay, and are a vindication of the war!" spin.
 
Pretty soon Sadr will come up against US forces... It's gonna be nasty, and we will probably suffer the worst casualties yet. That is if we don't leave before then.

All we can do is sit back, and watch the canage... My money's on the Shiite;)
 
More people died in iraq whats new?
 
Pretty soon Sadr will come up against US forces... It's gonna be nasty, and we will probably suffer the worst casualties yet. That is if we don't leave before then.

All we can do is sit back, and watch the canage... My money's on the Shiite;)

Sad'r has already called for shia to start attacking US troops from his safe hiding place in Iran.
 
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