pre-release info Songhai - Exploration Age Civilization

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Moroco for the last Modern Civ in the base game will be a good choice. What are the chances of it?
 
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Hints for future DLC, most likely.
Mali was also mentioned. But based on the description, it could only appear in the Antiquity Age, which I really think is quite unlikely. However, the Ghana Empire would be a very fitting predecessor to Songhai, especially since it almost perfectly matches what is considered the Antiquity Age in the game.

Moroco for the last Modern Civ in the base game will be a good choice. What are the chances of it?
I'd say almost 0%, but highly likely for future additional content.
 
I think it’s because of a group of elite Songhai soldiers who wore gold bracelets
I did end up finding another reference to it. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a name for them in their language, so that's why I agree that the name does sound pretty generic.
Mali was also mentioned. But based on the description, it could only appear in the Antiquity Age, which I really think is quite unlikely. However, the Ghana Empire would be a very fitting predecessor to Songhai, especially since it almost perfectly matches what is considered the Antiquity Age in the game.
I can't see Mali appearing in this iteration either. Mansa Musa could still appear as a leader later though and would pair well with a West Africa/North Africa civ progression.
 
It will be interesting to see how balanced the treasure fleets civic is since they would spawn and could be instantly claimed that turn, but I think it’s very unique and thematic, and glad there’s another “focuses on the homeland in exploration age” civ
Since they are unique its possible they act in a unique way.... Perhaps those "Homeland Treasure Fleets" are actually land units (that can embark) but must be brought to your capital (or a foreign territory?) to unload....
Yeah that would be it, must be unloaded in the territory of a civ you have trade route with. That way its not just a Ticking time to win.
 
Since they are unique its possible they act in a unique way.... Perhaps those "Homeland Treasure Fleets" are actually land units (that can embark) but must be brought to your capital (or a foreign territory?) to unload....
Yeah that would be it, must be unloaded in the territory of a civ you have trade route with. That way its not just a Ticking time to win.
I doubt that. "Fleet" definitely connotes ship, and they would've highlighted that it's a unique unit, I think.
 
One thing I'm thinking is that I'd like to see some more leaders with a navigable river bias. Both for Songhai and Shawnee it would be nice to have a leader (besides Hatshepshut) that pushed you towards good spawns for them. Ditto another leader with mountain start bias for the Incas. Rather than the map playing you in exploration, give you more options to play the map.
 
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Something I thought of with regards to playing against the Songhai:

Don't conquer them. Just stay in a state of war. Keep your units in their territory and steal every Treasure Fleet that spawns.
 
Something I thought of with regards to playing against the Songhai:

Don't conquer them. Just stay in a state of war. Keep your units in their territory and steal every Treasure Fleet that spawns.
Gotta build those boats to go up river then
 
I doubt that. "Fleet" definitely connotes ship, and they would've highlighted that it's a unique unit, I think.
Yeah... hopefully it isn't just "activate on homeland territory" though... Activate on foreign territory you have trade agreement with would still work though... Otherwise its just a victory timer based on the number of N.River cities,
 
I'm fully expecting these Treasure Fleets to be activated in-place. That's why they are balanced by only having a single point value. The Songhai will get a trickle of easy economic legacy points that seem to be additive to what they would earn from Treasure Fleets sailed from Distant Lands.
 
So we have a couple of Exploration civs with a different take on legacy path mechanics; I wasn't expecting 2/10 at launch, I thought that might come later. I'm glad to see it!

The Majapahit and Hawai'i also receive free Relics, which gives them a shortcut for the Cultural Legacy path.
 
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