Sweden's issues: White bandages are racist.

[Formaldehyde]

Well, the bandages that professionals use are completely white so that one can easily see if they need to be changed or tended. They aren't "skin-colored" to match medium pigmented whites so they supposedly aren't so visible.

 

[Nares]

It is supposed to be a light-hearted thread

Charges of racism should be considered "light hearted"?

And let's assume that bandages are white because of some vast racist conspiracy: Who the hell cares?

The court which awards some class of victims a nine figure payout, the bulk of which goes to the attorneys anyway.

 

[bhavv]

When charges of racism have nowadays devolved to such petty cases, I really don't think it can be taken seriously anymore.

 

[Formaldehyde]

What? Racism can't be taken seriously because some of it may involve petty stuff like this?

 

[bhavv]

Or I meant to say that in cases like this, racism accusations cannot be taken seriously.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

What part of a huge PR win is so difficult to understand?

The fact that Ebon-Aids folded. Maybe the demand isn't as high as you think. Maybe people realize that you can't really hide bandages, leading to such designs with popular cartoon characters that are the complete opposite of camouflage. You're not really showing me enough evidence that there is a demand that offsets the higher costs. If this continues, then I will have nothing to discuss with you.

 

[Formaldehyde]

No other band-aid company has been able to be a commercial success under any circumstances.

But the point remains that Johnson&Johnson could easily cater to the black and minority community if they wished to do so. That they clearly have other lines which are directed to appeal to other even smaller audiences. Yet they do not do so. So economics doesn't appear to be the major criteria here, if at all.

I have no idea if this is due to racism or not. But it is clear they really have no interest providing "skin-tone" bandages to people who aren't Caucasians for whatever reasons.

 

[Angst]

Sure it was anecdotal, nothing out of the ordinary around here. However, there seems to be an interesting trend for this "national-conservative anti-immigrant party of Sweden": their support from immigrants - people not born in Sweden - have increased fivefold over the last year or so. Last percentage I saw was 8,5%, which is quite high imo. I believe there's reason to assume that number is higher for second and third generation immigrants. - Another anecdote from Sweden.

It wasn't just anecdotical, it was bad statistics and intentionally misleading.

What is the 8,5% a part of? Among total voters or among immigrants?

8,5% is somewhat significant if among immigrants, but not that significant honestly, and it's especially nowhere near the degree demonstrated by the picture. It is not representative of the Swedish situation and is demonstrably false in the very little it shows as it superficially bases "non-Swedishness" on a slightly off complexion - on a person born in Sweden.

Yes the trend is interesting. But my point is: The post sucked and you know it.

 

[caketastydelish]

Form actually believes the band-aids are racist after all.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Form actually believes the band-aids are racist after all.

Nope. As I made abundantly clear I think it is highly suspicious that Johnson & Johnson doesn't have a single product that specifically caters to blacks or minorities, even when it is quite clear they could easily do so with Band-Aids in particular so they are actually "skin-tone", as they allege.

I have no idea if this is due to racism or not.

But that certainly isn't going to stop you from interpreting what you want from my posts to try to intentionally disparage my reputation.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

That they clearly have other lines which are directed to appeal to other even smaller audiences.

What other lines do they have which cater to smaller audiences? Genuine question, I probably missed it in the thread. The only special lines I saw mentioned were the cartoon-based ones for kids, but I really wouldn't consider all children to be a smaller market than black people.

 

[Formaldehyde]

The group of children who want to get a particular type of cartoon Band-Aid are likely a smaller percentage than the black community. And, again, if it is supposedly due to economics they also have to pay royalties on these.

What i really wonder, though, is why they simply don't do it for PR reasons. They just don't seem to care that a large portion of the population cannot avail themselves of the benefit of "skin-tone" Band-Aids, including me for that matter. My skin if much fairer than the color of Band-Aids.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I'd estimate that of all the plasters I've ever worn in my life, a good 80 or 90% of them were during my childhood. I tend not to graze my knees that often these days. So I wouldn't necessarily assume that the black market is larger than the child (or their parents) market for a particularly popular cartoon character like Sponge Bob, especially if that also includes a fair portion of black children too. It may well be, but I think it could go either way on that one. Certainly doesn't seem likely to be overwhelmingly one way or the other enough to just state it outright without anything to back it up.

Maybe it's everyone else who doesn't care, hence making it not that big of a potential PR victory?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

But the point remains that Johnson&Johnson could easily cater to the black and minority community if they wished to do so. That they clearly have other lines which are directed to appeal to other even smaller audiences. Yet they do not do so. So economics doesn't appear to be the major criteria here, if at all.

Another repetition of your previous points, especially that one about "smaller audiences". I think we are done here. Time to re-initiate lurker mode. Good day.

 

[shadowplay]

Are white lab coats racist?

Yes. You could have requested the Filipino lab coat.

 

[bhavv]

Ok look, here is why this thread / debate it entirely ignorant:

Black people are not excluded from using any of Johnson and Johnson's products. They can use any of their current band aid, shampoo and whatever else that they make.

So since minorities are not being refused equal service, where exactly is the racism?

Political correctness needs to be banned.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

The racism is in the fact that black people are unable to purchase plasters that blend seamlessly and invisibly with their skin, in exactly the same way that no white person has ever been able to either.

 

[bhavv]

The racism is in the fact that black people are unable to purchase plasters that blend seamlessly and invisibly with their skin, in exactly the same way that no white person has ever been able to either.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...e+plasters&dpPl=1&dpID=51f3UI2C2zL&ref=plSrch

/thread.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I can see a rather glaring flaw with those...

 

[Formaldehyde]

lack people are not excluded from using any of Johnson and Johnson's products. They can use any of their current band aid, shampoo and whatever else that they make.

I take it you don't really understand that there are a multitude of health and beauty products specifically designed for blacks and other minorities, yet Johnson & Johnson doesn't even sell one of them despite having such an extensive product line?

I can see a rather glaring flaw with those...

Indeed. Who wants to look at an open, bloody, or festering wound?