Team Game - Isolated Pacal (Deity)

[Lain]

No, the whips are only meant to generate hammers (overflow) for building the Globe. Once it's built pure drafting will surely be better . But knowing the angry faces will disappear we can whip very heavily right now (and stack units for happiness until the Globe is finished).

 

[Fippy]

What do you think about the guilds situation, self tech and hope we get some of that back with trades?
If so we should start now, and increase our chances it's still worth something when done.

Can do rice for another pigs
Yup i wanted to send one worker on copper for road, and another can help when not losing a turn.

Okay with skipping GP points in CI.

 

[Lain]

Yup, self-tech Guilds looks good

 

[Fippy]

I would like to whip an Observatory in Mutal before we start teching again (break after guilds?), into Moai.
(also dropping the mine for coast), with Palace commerce added we get 12 beakers / turn currently i think that's good.

Think i also like one in Calakmul where we would run out of useful tiles soon, forest chop could help?
And Mayapan, 2 forests too and has developed into a nice commerce city already.
Not sure on Lak or Uxmal yet, seems not optimal currently.

Hmm Quiri..will be our weakest city, would a forge be worth doing here?

 

[Lain]

Yes, think I like the Observatory ideas. Well, Quiri... not great, but I think a Forge should be worth it .

 

[Fippy]

Uh okay, 1t and already something major changed again lol..
Asoka got guilds, and both he and Willy would trade now.

Sadly Willy has only Drama as other useful tech, and Asoka CS but our "plan" was not giving him Astro.

Added save, not a small decision there.

 

[dutchfire]

Gonna take a look at the save.

Mutal it seems reasonable to whip both ball court and observatory into Maoi.

What's the micromanagement priority right now? We have a couple of windmills (shared by Mutal/Lakhama, Uxmal) that could reasonably be worked.

Trade optics for COL+Poly+60 gold with Pericles?

Is that the Dutch border 3E of Agra?

Regarding the trade, the main point at the moment, I am not super enthusiastic about giving Astronomy away right now, especially for relatively low value guilds.
If we make this trade, getting CS would be the most useful, since it gives +1f in Mutal immediately, and also allows us to start a Irrigate the Globe Theatre project for CI.

 

[Lain]

Hmm Asoka would benefit too much I guess... and Civil Service is not that urgent? +1 food on the corn and spreading farms can wait a bit longer. So I would trade Guilds+Drama from Willy :/. Big question to me is: Would Willem trade it to other people then? He trades when 15% of AI know a tech... soo do we count in that number? If yes he would give it to anyone. Trading with Asoka would also make Gilgamesh unhappy

CI could put hammers into a Galleon now and whip 3-pop into Barracks? Or with Drama could 2-pop whip a Theatre into Barracks, otherwise we never finish that thing.

Lakamha Forge next turn (whip penalty runs out)?

 

[Fippy]

I used coastal over windmills in Mutal and Lak, cos i thought 1h makes not that much difference.
And Uxmal farms & cottages, not sure on that.

Yep did not change build in CI yet, was waiting for drama..
i think theatre should be first into barracks.

Hmm okay, also take CoL from Willy?
It's not a needed tech, but "expensive" enuf to grab imo.
Asoka needs cautious for trading and is annoyed with Willy, so they should not trade.

And yup, dutch borders.

Imo drama is actually more needed than CS right now with Globe, or we indeed never finish that..
let's not forget we need 5 more theatres.

Will whip Lak next turn.

 

[Lain]

Hm river windmills might be better than farms, but I think it's fine either way.

Uxmal has Hinduism (AP religion), so if we want some building there

Would take Code of Laws too, yup

 

[Fippy]

Theatres still hurt a bit i think, Cal can whip into Obs that's okay.
I guess Maya has to do same.

We have not much choice here thou, until we get all theatres we cannot overflow whip galleons in CI.

 

[Fippy]

Actually we could wait on that whole guilds trade, gather gold and see how trades develop.
Asoka & Willy both are building Notre Dame, afterwards Willy should give us Engineering which would be much better ofc.

Okay good point, i will start creating those whip queues in CI.

 

[Lain]

True, but we can whip galleon and only finish it after 6 Theatres are done (take it out of queue) . Same with Treb, maybe Spy, Explorer (all needed later). Sooo we have a bit of freedom there, no need to rush all theatres asap.

Yup, collecting gold and waiting a few turns also sounds good

 

[Fippy]

Another turn, and more events..

We got Drama from Peri for Optics (great).
And met SB (could give Compass for diplo).

Main topics i want to ask about, theatres and resi trades.
For resis we could give away stone to Asoka so he can complete ND quicker (and Engi trade comes with Willy).
Nice gpt too. But no Moai for some time (not an urgent project thou, more just for fun).
Gems to Bully not sure, only 7g.

 

[Lain]

Would give Compass to Bully for relations... 7 gpt for Gems is not great, but better than resources I guess .
Stone to Asoka for money+resi is good thinking, would do that yup.

Hope we can get Guilds soon in a good trade, would also take Guilds + Civil Service, just maybe not from Asoka.

Theatres hm... well, not so urgent with whip queues, just build where you feel they fit in right now, I guess . Observatories seem more urgent in some places for example? Hmm.

Maybe hit "whip" now in CI (galleon)? Coast tiles don't seem so important.

 

[Fippy]

Okay, which cities for theatres thou?
So far i have picked Cal, where theatre & Observatory should be no problem,
and Uxmal where i moved a worker towards that last forest for theatre hammers (would rather not whip).

Mutal too i think, especially with no Moai for some time.
We can then pick between Lak (annoying imo, still needs barracks and harbor), Mayapan, and Ox (would have forests) for 2 more.

Works

 

[Lain]

Soo 6 theatres...

Mutal
CI
Uxmal (chop)
Mayapan (has two forests)
Calakmul

aand ... Oxhuitza? Could whip Theatre into Forge for hammers. Lakamha focuses on Harbor, Barracks etc

Would go like that I guess

 

[Fippy]

Tada

Spoiler :

And we should even get CS from Bully next turn with guilds, that worked out well

I also gave Giggles our last gems for 13gpt, too good to pass on that imo and we can trade for other happy if it's getting urgent..fine for now thou.

 

[Lain]

Great turn up slider for Gunpowder, or wait for some Observatories?

Spy points on Asoka maybe? He hates a few people so with a bit of luck we could see what he is teching in 50 turns

Maybe Lakamha overflow into Barracks now so we can whip 2-pop Harbor later?

 

[Fippy]

I think Observatories are not "big" enuf to wait, we are at only -63gpt now and can start teching.

Will go zzzZZzzz now thou, you can ofc play a bit if you like.
Rough plan was 3 pop whip of Obs next turn in Cal, Mutal could whip now but i was not sure on that.

Forgot about spy points, not really important with 4 ~~

Lak i would let recover a bit, that hill cottage will actually be a village in 1t.