The 2016 US Presidential Primaries Begin!
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onejayhawk
Afflicted with reason
See previous citation. Note the word "worst".
Jeb Bush is going to run. The timing of the announcement is all that remains.
Paul will also run. His position in the Senate is very secure, so there is no down side.
Christie is likely to run, but Bush could bury him on the fund raising side. Having Romney also in the ring makes it crowded. Paul does not need a big war chest.
Carson is a pot stirrer, not a serious candidate. Still, Joe Biden has a worse case of athlete's tongue and look what he managed.
I like Paul (due to the Ron), but Christie seems horrible and i doubt he could easily defeat even a dog or monkey as his opponent by now.
Don't ignore Scott Walker. He is doing very well with his trial balloon in Iowa.
(or a... crocodile?).
What have you got against Hillary? This is the first time I have seen her called a croc.
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onejayhawk
Afflicted with reason
This is another way of saying there is no establishment candidate.
I note that Romney took swipes at Christie and Bush on his way out. Nice guy.
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cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
And Donald Trump discusses Mitt Romney dropping out on his twitter with his humble, restrained attitude just like usual:
"I will take full credit for Mitt Romney dropping out of the race—looks like he won’t be endorsing Trump any time soon."
"Mitt did the right thing—not because he had to-- but because he never would have been given a second chance after his first fiasco"
Oh Donald Trump, tsk tsk. Looks like the 2016 season is gonna be just as entertaining as the last one.
"I will take full credit for Mitt Romney dropping out of the race—looks like he won’t be endorsing Trump any time soon."
"Mitt did the right thing—not because he had to-- but because he never would have been given a second chance after his first fiasco"
Oh Donald Trump, tsk tsk. Looks like the 2016 season is gonna be just as entertaining as the last one.
hangman
almost-scientist
Here and I thought the Republican Party would have purged the Tea Party heresy by now 
onejayhawk
Afflicted with reason
Here and I thought the Republican Party would have purged the Tea Party heresy by now
That's about half their registered voters.
The Tea Party, by itself, is too large to be considered a "heresy". That does not get into sympathizers. Like many grass roots organizations, it is chaotic and amorphous, but there is a LOT of it.
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hangman
almost-scientist
Except the origins of the Tea Party are not grassroots at all, there's a number of links to tobacco/climate denial machines and right wing think tanks involved in financing it. Had the funding been cut off, the whole thing would have dissipated as a coherent force IMO, although it's probably too entrenched now for the right wing to do much about it.
Then again, the Koch brothers and their network have stated plans to effectively triple the Republican campaign budget, so I guess they're in it for the long haul...
Then again, the Koch brothers and their network have stated plans to effectively triple the Republican campaign budget, so I guess they're in it for the long haul...
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
Here and I thought the Republican Party would have purged the Tea Party heresy by now
Once the Tea Party heresy has at least 5 more provinces than Republicanism, then the Tea Party will replace the Republic as the orthodox religion and Republicanism will become a heresy.
Oh wait, this isn't CKII.
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
Yeah, it's become much more incestuous.
Zkribbler
Deity
onejayhawk
Afflicted with reason
This is a popular myth, promulgated by people that manufacture astroturf. The Tea Party is textbook grass roots. Compare, for example, the continuing demonstrations in Ferguson.
It's ironic. For some, the expression has a positive value judgment attached. As such it has connotations, which are supposed to apply only to groups affiliated with the Democratic Party. Hence you get a reaction similar to the same people opinion of Fox news or the Koch Bothers.
More irony, George Soros railing at the Koch Bothers. Pot meet Kettle.
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onejayhawk
Afflicted with reason
Back to the topic of the thread. 538 has a couple of articles that are relevant. First a post Roimney round up. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/romney-not-running-for-president/
Second, relating to the first official 2016 event--the Iowa Caucuses.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/chaos-not-scott-walker-leads-the-republican-field-in-iowa/
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Second, relating to the first official 2016 event--the Iowa Caucuses.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/chaos-not-scott-walker-leads-the-republican-field-in-iowa/
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ReindeerThistle
Zimmerwald Left
Tea Party is NOT grass roots. Grass roots =/= two oil tycoons financing anti-worker campaigns.
No love for Soros, either.
Jeb Bush is going to be our next Prez, with another first: Mexican First Lady.
No dems can beat Bush. Mark my words.
No love for Soros, either.
Jeb Bush is going to be our next Prez, with another first: Mexican First Lady.
No dems can beat Bush. Mark my words.
onejayhawk
Afflicted with reason
The amount of money thrown at the Tea Party does not matter. The acid test is what happens when the money dries up and the cameras go away. The Tea Party was there before the Koch's popped up and it is still out there now. I say again, textbook case of grassroots.
The Republican party agrees with you on the rest. They think Hillary is the bead curtain in an open doorway. Barak Obama has done more to revitalize Republicans than Newt Gingrich 25 years ago. That's a lot.
Sabato has another article out. Three in six weeks may be a new record. Walk and Bush share top billing.
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2016-president/
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Archbob
Ancient CFC Guardian
I think if you think that a Bush can Beat a Clinton after the last Bush presidency, you've got another thing coming.
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
I think Jeb's got a real shot.
