The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

[Steph]

I'm hesitating between a GeForce 6600 and a GeForce 6800 GS.
I don't want to spend to much €€ on it at the moment, so if I can only buy a GeForce 6600, which is half the price of the GeForce 6800 GS, it would be better, and I would make a general system update next year.
Anyone with a 6600? How does it work?

 

[Wolfe Tone]

What is the conversation system like. That was the main thing about Morrowind that bothered me, conversations didn't seem that imersive. Unlike KoTOR and Neverwinter Nights. Regardless I'm going to get the game anyway.

 

[Till]

According to my research, the lowest cost to get something "acceptable" is 122 € for a GeForce 6600 AGP, that will not require changing the mobo nor CPU.

Problem is, that AGP seems to get replaced by PCIe. I don't want to invest 122€ in dead end technology.

 

[Steph]

Problem is, that AGP seems to get replaced by PCIe. I don't want to invest 122€ in dead end technology.

If I change for a GeGorce 7800 GT, PCI express 16x, I need to change the mobo. It means I need to change the CPU (different socket), and probably the memory (DDR2)
Total cost = 800 €. If I don't need to change the PSU or something else.

I love Bethesda's game, but I can't afford 800 € just to play the game

 

[Till]

If I change for a GeGorce 7800 GT, PCI express 16x, I need to change the mobo. It means I need to change the CPU (different socket), and probably the memory (DDR2)
Total cost = 800 €. If I don't need to change the PSU or something else.

I love Bethesda's game, but I can't afford 800 € just to play the game

I'm calculating with ~700€, but yeah i get your point. However my reasoning is, that i would rather spend the 600-800€ it takes to get a modern machine, than to spend 110€ now for something that will barely let me play the game and will be outdated very soon.
Of course, i don't have the money for a new computer, either.
I'll have to save up for a while. Maybe i can affort it in 2 or 3 months.

 

[Steph]

I know...
I have the feeling I will simply borrow my office computer card, which is a FX 5200, then try to play with minimum settings at 3-4 FPS (I will get time to see what happens at least).
And save for a complete upgrade next year.
By then the price will have dropped a little...

 

[Amazigh]

I know...
I have the feeling I will simply borrow my office computer card, which is a FX 5200, then try to play with minimum settings at 3-4 FPS (I will get time to see what happens at least).
And save for a complete upgrade next year.
By then the price will have dropped a little...

I had a 6600GT, AMD 2500+ and an NF7 mobo plus 1 gb ram. I bought the most bang for the buck and the result was:

a cheap cabinet with in-built 350Watt psu (18 A on 12 V rail) cheaper than a new PSU
ASUS SKT939 A8N-E, mobo
AMD 64 3500 CPU
Inno3D VGA PCI-E 256 MB GeForce 7800 GT
I can play on max settings with all eye candy on on all games, including FEAR and FAR CRY

total price was 4636 DDK incl 25% danish VAT which is aprox. 621 Euro

I think you can get the same upgrade in French aprox. 5-10% cheaper because of lower tax and VAT in french. I have experienced that the electronic prices is a bit cheaper in french then Denmark.

Oh i almost forgot that i sold my older parts on an internet forum for aprox. 120 euro, so i have "only" spend 500 Euro

I will not by 6600Gt or even worse the 6800GS both cards are out dated perfom very bad in new games...

 

[Steph]

Here are the price I have, tax includes:
- GPU 7800 GT 256 Mb PCI-E= 349 €
- Pentium IV 630 3.0 GHz = 186.5 €
- 1 Gb DDR2 - PC 6400 = 179 €
- ASUSTek P5ND2-SLI = 98.5 €

Total = 813 €.

The best I can get, with slighlty less good stuff, and keeping the same GPU, is 700 € or so

 

[CivCube]

Want a free copy of Oblivion? There's a costume contest going on to win a signed CE.

http://contest.waiting4oblivion.com/

Sadly, it would appear that there are some really good entries so far...I'm not sure if my cardboard Dremora armor is going to cut it.

 

[Abaddon]

Meh, my laptop fails on numberous things

 

[Marmoset]

I'm hesitating between a GeForce 6600 and a GeForce 6800 GS.
I don't want to spend to much €€ on it at the moment, so if I can only buy a GeForce 6600, which is half the price of the GeForce 6800 GS, it would be better, and I would make a general system update next year.
Anyone with a 6600? How does it work?

The screenshots I posted should give you and idea of the 6600! The 6800 seems to be getting varying results, some people have it cranked up pretty well but others aren't doing much better than the 6600 - I guess it all depends on the total system package. I personally think the 6600 is probably better bang for the buck, but it's definitely not quite as good a card. Also there's the matter of the 128mb versions vs. the 256mb version. (I have the 128).

I know...
I have the feeling I will simply borrow my office computer card, which is a FX 5200, then try to play with minimum settings at 3-4 FPS (I will get time to see what happens at least).
And save for a complete upgrade next year.
By then the price will have dropped a little...

From reading the official forums, people are having a lot of trouble with that series of cards - really all of the "FX" cards, even some that are pretty new. Plus 5200 is an old one to begin with. There's a good chance it won't work (at least right now) - but if it's not too hard to try it out, I guess it's worth a shot!

 

[Aneurism]

But my 6 mth old pc just met the recommended specs, hopefully it can cope with it.

Thanks for the thread, the old one just die off after the game got delayed.

LOL I think a lot of folks are getting paranoid about the requirements for this game. I fully expect my 4 year old computer system to work with Oblivian, and I believe it will work fine at medium settings.


AMD Athalon XP 2700+ socket A 333mhz bus (2.17Ghz)
ASUS A7V600 VIA KT600 (8X AGP, SATA)
1GB PC-3200 DDR400Mhz
Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
BenQ DW1620 DVD writer
LG 60X CDRW
80GB Western Digital 7200 RPM, ATA-100
120GB Western Digital 7200 RPM, SATA
Creative Labs Live! 5.1 PCI soundcard.
Integrated NIC 10/100MB
Enermax 430w power supply.

(the only caveat is that my original Radeon 9700 card was replaced by a 9800 due to warranty coverage, and I got an extra 120GB hard drive and DVD burner along the way... otherwise this system was built in September 2002)

keep in mind the minimum specs:

Minimum System Requirements:

Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows XP 64-bit
512MB System RAM
2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
128MB Direct3D compatible video card
and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver;
8x DVD-ROM drive
4.6 GB free hard disk space
DirectX 9.0c (included)
DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
Keyboard, Mouse
Supported Video Card Chipsets:

ATI X1900 series
ATI X1800 series
ATI X1600 series
ATI X1300 series
ATI X850 series
ATI x800 series
ATI x700 series
ATI x600 series
ATI Radeon 9800 series
ATI Radeon 9700 series
ATI Radeon 9600 series
ATI Radeon 9500 series
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 series
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 series
NVIDIA GeForce 6200 series
NVIDIA GeForce FX series

 

[FriendlyFire]

I'm hesitating between a GeForce 6600 and a GeForce 6800 GS.
I don't want to spend to much €€ on it at the moment, so if I can only buy a GeForce 6600, which is half the price of the GeForce 6800 GS, it would be better, and I would make a general system update next year.
Anyone with a 6600? How does it work?

I have a 6600GT AGP gigbyte which is heavily overclocked.
I paid AU $220 for it and another $65 AU for a new 430w PSU.

I dont have Oblivion but I can say: No problem playing any current games so far.

 

[Patricius]

So does everyone generally recomend a Nvidia over ATI?
I have a ATI Radeon x300 right now, so I have to upgrade if I want to see any decent graphics.

Patricius

 

[CivCube]

Yes, nVidia is generally the better GPU manufacturer.

 

[Ulyaoth]

It really doesn't matter. Both are pretty much of the same relative quality, not really a blowout, maybe 2 or 3 fps difference, the main difference is in picture quality, and I believe ATI cards are believed to be the winners of that.

 

[Gojira54]

I've got an AMD Athlon 64x2 4400 with dual nVidia 6600 GT on SLI, 2 GBs RAM. I hope this will be enough, cuz I cannot wait!

 

[Maniacal]

Ok, I tryed that system req thing on my mom's computer with cable, it isn't very good, it seems to think I have 256 ram when this comp has 512! It syas I can run Civ4 + Cod2 but need new drvers.

Piece of crud.

 

[Aneurism]

Yes, nVidia is generally the better GPU manufacturer.

No, nVidia is not generally better. It all depends on who has just released their newest high end card, ATI and nVidia are constantly leapfrogging each other for the top card. But that doesnt matter, the best bet is just to look around for good deals to get the most for your money whether it is ATI or nVidia. Check out http://www.tomshardware.com/ for good comparison charts and which card gets the best 'bang for the buck'.

 

[Gojira54]

Ok, I tryed that system req thing on my mom's computer with cable, it isn't very good, it seems to think I have 256 ram when this comp has 512! It syas I can run Civ4 + Cod2 but need new drvers.

Piece of crud.

I ran the same test. Met all the minimums, but my video card failed the rec. - They want the nVidia 6800 for the rec, I have 6600 GT. Of course, the analyzer missed the fact that I have 2 6600 GTs working together via SLI. I could be wrong, but I think that should cover the difference.