The many questions-not-worth-their-own-thread question thread XX

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

20 and 1/2.

How old do you think you are?

Ding Ding, you are today's winner of Cashews and Milk!

I think I am 20 1/2.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

You have a problem with that?

I sure do, it's just that it ranks #75489 on my list of them.

Anyway....back to the questions.

Why is it referred to as PC vs Mac? Doesn't PC mean personal computer? Don't Apple make computers?

 

[Farm Boy]

I sure do, it's just that it ranks #75489 on my list of them.

Anyway....back to the questions.

Why is it referred to as PC vs Mac? Doesn't PC mean personal computer? Don't Apple make computers?

Barely.

 

[Borachio]

PC was a trademarked term. By IBM originally, wasn't it?

 

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

Microsoft beats Apple any day in my opinion. Steve Jobs wasn't as great as people say.

 

[Borachio]

Oh right? I've been meaning to try out an Apple for years now.

I think the motorola architecture looks much more robust.

And Microsoft OS's truly stink.

But, like most things, there's a big cost difference involved.

 

[cardgame]

OSX is a beautiful, beautiful thing. I still can't get over how awesome it is. Just very expensive

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

Barely.

I must live in another world because clearly this statement means something to the vast majority here. I'm assuming it means Apple make crap computers right?

Do they really or is this like a sporting team thing whereby the team you like is awesome and the one you don't is terrible, when in reality they are both professional sporting sides and quite good?

Is there substance to Apple sucking?

 

[cardgame]

Not really. Apple's computers are all very quality builds, you just don't get as much performance for your money compared to PCs. To some people that is the be-all end-all. It was for me as well, then I tried it. The OS is very important as well and I couldn't be happier with any PC laptop than I am with my MBP.

 

[Borachio]

Is there substance to Apple sucking?

Blind prejudice. And people's thin wallets. There is, the last time I looked into this, an almost 10x difference in price for performance.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I sure do, it's just that it ranks #75489 on my list of them.

Anyway....back to the questions.

Why is it referred to as PC vs Mac? Doesn't PC mean personal computer? Don't Apple make computers?

Apple does make personal computers, but PC has come to mean all computers running Microsoft OS's. I don't know if it's trademarked or copywritten, but that's what it means.

Microsoft beats Apple any day in my opinion. Steve Jobs wasn't as great as people say.

Steve Jobs was a total jerk and was responsible for his own death, even though he came off his high horse and spent millions on treatment the rest of us couldn't afford. He deserved what he got, I'm sorry if that's rude.

 

[Grendeldef]

Why is it referred to as PC vs Mac? Doesn't PC mean personal computer? Don't Apple make computers?

PC (capital letters) is more specifically a type of personal computer describing the original IBM PC, it's clones & successors whereas Macs are Apple's view of personal computer.

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[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

So Apple is perceived as style over substance right? So I'd imagine in a place like this, that doesn't cut it because many of you would be right into computers and value performance first and foremost.

 

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

Apple does make personal computers, but PC has come to mean all computers running Microsoft OS's. I don't know if it's trademarked or copywritten, but that's what it means.
Steve Jobs was a total jerk and was responsible for his own death, even though he came off his high horse and spent millions on treatment the rest of us couldn't afford. He deserved what he got, I'm sorry if that's rude.

I won't be that harsh but yes, I think Steve Jobs was a jerk. People say Bill Gates "stole" ideas..... Steve Jobs did the same extact thing and is no better. Besides, do people think he really came up will everything? Some of his ideas probably really wasn't even his and he took credit for it.

 

[Borachio]

@rLf
Only if cost is your first consideration. Followed by program availability (marginal).

 

[hobbsyoyo]

So Apple is perceived as style over substance right? So I'd imagine in a place like this, that doesn't cut it because many of you would be right into computers and value performance first and foremost.

No Apple is style and substance, really. I'm no Apple fanboy, but they do have great products. They are just very, very pricey and you can get equal or better performance from a PC for less cost.

But you probably couldn't replicate the experience of having nearly flawless OS and interconnectivity with other devices (iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc.) without spending serious bucks and also figuring out how to get it all to play nice together.

When you go Apple, you get the entire ecosystem that works together well. That is worth the upfront cost for many people and probably is cheaper and more efficient in the long haul versus trying to hodge-podge that kind of ecosystem together with a PC and various other products.

I won't be that harsh but yes, I think Steve Jobs was a jerk. People say Bill Gates "stole" ideas..... Steve Jobs did the same extact thing and is no better. Besides, do people think he really came up will everything? Some of his ideas probably really wasn't even his and he took credit for it.

Steve Jobs was not an Engineer of any sort. Any 'idea' he had was of the abstract sort, it was up to others to follow through and make it happen. Plus, as you say, many 'ideas' he never had, he just took them from others and sold them as his own.

That's fine, he was a salesmen after all. But that's where his 'genius' ends, he was a salesmen and business leader, nothing more. Certainly not a Engineer, a developer or even a particularly great leader or human being.

He was a jerk to everyone, acted like a priviledged brat and thought he could heal himself 'naturally' becuase he was special. How did that work out for him? He died of a cancer that has an extremely high survival rate because he put off dealing with it while he farted around with natural remedies while it spread throughout his body.

 

[Farm Boy]

So Apple is perceived as style over substance right? So I'd imagine in a place like this, that doesn't cut it because many of you would be right into computers and value performance first and foremost.

The cost for performance is big yes. The actual hostility probably stems more from two things. 1) perceived annoying apple customers using the product as a status symbol and raving about how great the product is with little actual technical understanding of the options and 2) interoperability issues. Apple(like anyone else would) uses it's patent chest and dominant market share to crush interoperability between systems. Remember in the 90s when Microsoft was in trouble for binding IE to it's operating system? Yea, apple does that only times about 9000. Low interoperability is good for companies on top, but it's a miserable thing to do to consumers.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

Thanks gents. Comprehensive to say the least.

But now my i pad (my only functioning computer and Internet connection) feels a bit dirty in my hands.

 

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

No Apple is style and substance, really. I'm no Apple fanboy, but they do have great products. They are just very, very pricey and you can get equal or better performance from a PC for less cost.

But you probably couldn't replicate the experience of having nearly flawless OS and interconnectivity with other devices (iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc.) without spending serious bucks and also figuring out how to get it all to play nice together.

When you go Apple, you get the entire ecosystem that works together well. That is worth the upfront cost for many people and probably is cheaper and more efficient in the long haul versus trying to hodge-podge that kind of ecosystem together with a PC and various other products.




Steve Jobs was not an Engineer of any sort. Any 'idea' he had was of the abstract sort, it was up to others to follow through and make it happen. Plus, as you say, many 'ideas' he never had, he just took them from others and sold them as his own.

That's fine, he was a salesmen after all. But that's where his 'genius' ends, he was a salesmen and business leader, nothing more. Certainly not a Engineer, a developer or even a particularly great leader or human being.

He was a jerk to everyone, acted like a priviledged brat and thought he could heal himself 'naturally' becuase he was special. How did that work out for him? He died of a cancer that has an extremely high survival rate because he put off dealing with it while he farted around with natural remedies while it spread throughout his body.

I agree with everything you said. +!


Anyone here recmommnding my buying a Alienware computer for gaming?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

The cost for performance is big yes. The actual hostility probably stems more from two things. 1) perceived annoying apple customers using the product as a status symbol and raving about how great the product is with little actual technical understanding of the options and 2) interoperability issues. Apple(like anyone else would) uses it's patent chest and dominant market share to crush interoperability between systems. Remember in the 90s when Microsoft was in trouble for binding IE to it's operating system? Yea, apple does that only times about 9000. Low interoperability is good for companies on top, but it's a miserable thing to do to consumers.

Look at the new iPhone connectors for a great example (Why the hell won't they go to micro-USB like all other smart phone makers? Oh yeah, they make more money with the current setup). Or the way Apple refused to support Flash and USB 3.0 because they had their own standards. That kind of stuff annoys the heck out of me, but I'm not one of their consumers so I only care so much.