Off-topic is a place where ideas contend with each other. We pit our personal beliefs against each other using facts and articles as ammunition. Sometimes, however, the ideas are not as hotly contested as the posters themselves. I understand that there are many animosities here, some that go back years. They saturate threads and distract from real discussion. While this does make the Tavern more lively, it also works to ensure that when a personal spat breaks out, genuine discussion goes out the window. There is no cure for this and I certainly don't want it all to go away. But I do think there should be a place posters can go to where they can de-escalate and discuss interpersonal issues in a constructive manner. Both sides have to be willing to try and bury the hatchet for it work. Having a place for it to happen though may enable some of us to extend an olive branch so that something good may come out of a personal dispute. We'll call that place the Olive Branch Thread and I'm placing it in the Chamber to help ensure that spats actually get talked through and the argument doesn't just spill over here. If you have beef with someone and you'd like to squash it, come here and post about it. If someone's posting style grates you and you wish to frankly discuss it, this is the place for that as well. You can't guarantee that they will respond postively (or at all), but at least you will have tried. If the person doesn't respond to your olive branch, then you have to drop the issue. You can't post more than once here if the other person isn't responding because then you'd just be digging at them and/or trolling. -OR- We can dance around the flames we light with the olive branch. The choice is up to each of us. ______________________ I would like to extend an olive branch to Patraklos. This post was meant to be a lame attempt at something funny. It was worded in such a way that no smiley could have changed it's perception, it came across as a nasty attack. I just wanted to be funny, but it wasn't. I don't want to be enemies with Patraklos. While I disagree with him on issues, I respect his posts enough that I don't want to go down the path toward personal animosity. I do feel that the post that prompted my nastygram was an ad hominem. I felt that you were extremely dismissive of my ideas and posts in such a way that insinuated that I want children to die. That is how you read in the post I responded to and I did not take kindly to that characterization or how my point from the previous post was sidestepped in order to make that characterization. The issue we were discussing is hotly contested and both sides have firmly held beliefs. I don't think either of us did our side a favor in our posts and my post in particular was nasty in a way that I didn't really mean it to be and I don't fault you for responding in kind. One last thing, if the nickname 'eagleface' bugs you I will stop. Honestly, I would personally like that nickname if someone applied it to me, but if it is offensive, I will stop. It wasn't meant as a personal dig at you either, again I was trying to be humorous.