The POTUS decides to be a chicken, pulls out of Afghanistan

The Liar in Chief is hard at work.
Al Jazeera said the Taliban were pissed that they destroyed as much as they did. They considered the stuff left a national asset they they had every right to.
 
so , from some story or two on the dogs left behind , US Military took their own dogs , seating them on airline seats even where applicable but abandoned contractor and Afghan Army owned ones . They still would be taken out of the country but US Military supposedly threatened to shoot down the plane chartered for the job (at some 1,67 million dollars) and the woman running it confirms New Turkey has taken over the airport , things are smoother when contrasted to last two days and she is hopeful . Then her British counterpart , a former Royal Marine , in the news for saving 167 cats and dogs and leaving his humans back , some 68 of them , forming the staff . Could not pass the American barricades when they revised the fules at that particular moment with the ISIL attack .
 
and only because it will be forgotten by tomorrow it turns out that New Turkey already profusely thanked by Merkel's foreign minister for taking over the airport because that's how those left behind will be saved has also managed to pass enough American style malpractice laws . So , in the 4th biggest city of the country and in front the city hospital , this huge building done specifically to remove the need for smaller facilities in the city , so that the health sector can be monopolized by fewer numbers of people , because 50% of the country will never vote for A-K-P and the profits will end up this way or the other in British banks through PPP contracts , there is this woman .

and she falls down in front of the emergency service and knocks her head

and they won't take her in , because laws ban intervening in such stuff outside hospital limits

and they have to call an ambulance to satisfy the law

and they won't waive that in any way because ambulances are good business

and as per the course , there are no ambulances around because the bill should be huge as usual for profits to be made and no one will be running to the scene with shouting Da Dii Da Dii as we used to when ı was a kid mimicking ambulances or police cars

takes 20 minutes for an ambulance to come

she dies , because why not

a day after the PM declares that before them the now dead Turkish Armed Forces had no radios to use , even if ı don't why the agitated talk of the big city was like about Police wireless equipment .
 
Right, success and failure depends on the goals.

Looking at the numbers, it looks like we will get perhaps 60% of the Afghan collaborators out by the August 31st deadline.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/26/numbers-behind-kabul-airlift/

150000 out of 250000 people is pretty good, especially since most of that was done in 1 week.

Some people also might say 100000 collaborators left behind is a failure.

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Fixed numbers.
We got 12000 out on 27th, so figure 10000 on 28th and less each day.

The final numbers are 120000+ people evacuated (@0:14) and 90% of Americans that wanted to leave made it out (@5:25). :goodjob:


As for why we left when there were still about 24 hours left on the deadline, it was probably for surprise.
Like how we left Bagram airbase.
https://apnews.com/article/bagram-afghanistan-airfield-us-troops-f3614828364f567593251aaaa167e623

Here is the final soldier to leave; Major General Chris Donahue
 
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think they *they being the Communist Cadre* got destroyed in the 1992-1996 war....

Najibullah was literally tortured, killed, strung up and desecrated by the Taliban in 1996.

They let the Mujaddeen into power and the Mujadeen cleaned house. A lot of them fled from 1992 to 1996, and while some supported the Northern Alliance, the Northern Alliance also became basically just this weird mix of everyone so the Communist sector dwindled into obscurity.

Well if they were able to kill every communist then it must mean there never were that many, and if there were never that many then it means the majority of the populace simply did not care for communism.

I feel like most Afghans are actually into hyper conservatism and fundamental interpretations of Islam.
 
Well if they were able to kill every communist then it must mean there never were that many
You know the story of Native Americans in your country, right? Just asking...
 
You know the story of Native Americans in your country, right? Just asking...

Ok but where are the numbers to prove a genocide of that scale happened in Afghanistan?

Perhaps for the same reason people in US can't restore the same level of salaries vs house, education and medical prices they had in 1950's and 60's?

Not really comparable considering a hostile regime didn't violently overthrow the system to make that happen. Just kinda happened when everyone was asleep.
 
Ok but where are the numbers to prove a genocide of that scale happened in Afghanistan?
You know that it takes 5-15% of population to define the future of a country? A lot of communists were killed in 1992-1996 and those who survived are not very keen on going through the experience again. The fact that Najibullah is considered to be the best president of a country doesn't mean that everyone will rise up to bring it back. They know Taliban is supported by pretty powerful organisations, why risk one's life for a chance that will be taken away form them?

Not really comparable considering a hostile regime didn't violently overthrow the system to make that happen. Just kinda happened when everyone was asleep.
Not that everyone is awake I am sure things will change, right? Maybe tomorrow? On Friday?
 
You know that it takes 5-15% of population to define the future of a country? A lot of communists were killed in 1992-1996 and those who survived are not very keen on going through the experience again. The fact that Najibullah is considered to be the best president of a country doesn't mean that everyone will rise up to bring it back. They know Taliban is supported by pretty powerful organisations, why risk one's life for a chance that will be taken away form them?


Not that everyone is awake I am sure things will change, right? Maybe tomorrow? On Friday?

There was a communism purge in Indonesia, it goes so deep till it went down to generation below them (their children suffered discrimination and unequal right), and it was marked if your father, uncle or any other relative were communist or a member of labor party.

The little brother of Pramoedya Ananta Toer, despite his high education, due to his marked identity spend most of his life collecting garbage. It's a carnage, some estimate 1 million peoples died, I believe it's more than that. But after the reformation era communist and crypto communist start to re-appear. In this case @Joij21 got a point.
 
You know that it takes 5-15% of population to define the future of a country?

That sounds elitist. Even if it was true, if an elite group doesn't have the backing or support of the majority, what hope is there for an ideology beloved by such elites to survive? It's the masses that preserve an ideology to survive future generations.

A lot of communists were killed in 1992-1996 and those who survived are not very keen on going through the experience again.

But would those communists have died if the majority of the population actually believed in communism? I would bet that if the majority of the Afghan population had actually believed in the communist movement, then the Taliban simply would not have a large enough recruiting pool to pose a threat.
 
That sounds like thousands more were left behind...

the WH has corrected that, 98% were evacuated

I wonder how many are in the 'wanted to stay' category

Biden's in hot water for repeatedly looking at his watch during gold star family ceremony
 
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It looks like the Afghan economy was being propped up by the West

The Taliban Celebrate Victory, With a Crisis Looming
With the final U.S. troops gone, triumphant scenes were clouded by the prospect of famine and financial collapse. The Taliban spokesman called for international engagement.
Afghanistan is deeply impoverished, with a third of its citizens struggling to survive in the face of what the United Nations calls crisis levels of food insecurity, with the prospect that the country could functionally be out of food within a month. With many state employees no longer showing up for work, basic services like electricity are also under threat.
Fighting between the Taliban and government holdouts was reported on Tuesday

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/world/asia/afghanistan-taliban-airport.html
 
the WH has corrected that, 98% were evacuated

I wonder how many are in the 'wanted to stay' category

Biden's in hot water for repeatedly looking at his watch during gold star family ceremony

Some reports are saying he checked his watch after every single casket.

That would be 13 times.
https://nypost.com/2021/08/31/biden...k-schmitz-for-checking-watch-during-ceremony/

I would have to see pictures or video to believe that.

Surely he wouldn't check his watch more than once.
 
Biden's in hot water for repeatedly looking at his watch during gold star family ceremony

Great. What we really needed in the thread was a direct line to Fox News Disinformation making hay of out of context pictures to make bullfeathers outrage fuel.

Remember when Trump got four US Special Forces troops ambushed in West Africa, left their bodies behind, when one was finally recovered, played golf instead of greeting the coffins, and then later made the family cry with how rude he is?


Anyway, another congressman is off to a harebrained, unauthorised scheme in Afghanistan. Oklahoma Congressman Markwayne Mullin (R) travelled there with illegal bags of money, apparently to rescue someone himself. And threatened embassy staff for not helping him violate Tajikistan's cash limits. Don't worry. I'm sure his MMA skills will prove too much for the Taliban or ISIS-K.

Imagine how much bragging rights ISIS-K would get if they got to behead a sitting US Congressman. But I doubt it. My guess is he is probably still in Tajikistan, and will just fly back to give interviews about how Biden is, for not getting out people ... who refused warnings for four months to leave, and dozens of attempts to get them to leave.
 
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Biden's in hot water for repeatedly looking at his watch during gold star family ceremony

I suggest Imeachment
How soon the GOP forget about how Trump behaved, oh right they dont report that kind of stuff because it makes Trump look like a narcissist. Its always been Projection
 
Biden's in hot water for repeatedly looking at his watch during gold star family ceremony

Waaah! Biden looked at a watch! Waaaaaaah! Anyway have I mentioned lately how those oversensitive PC snowflakes are destroying Western civilization
 
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