The Speech that won the election

[AlpsStranger]

I find it amusing that you openly support:

Sedition
Anarchy
and Law Breaking
Extortion
Blackmail

Dont ask me to respect your opinion.

And you want to blow up children with landmines, which means your opinion is

on a good day.

 

[Chiteng]

And you want to blow up children with landmines, which means your opinion is

on a good day.

And now you are simply lying =)
I have never said anything like that.

Have a nice day

 

[JollyRoger]

Dont ask me to respect your opinion.

We don't have to ask, we know that you already do.

 

[Hygro]

Because it has been done before.

Those were Fed-induced recessions, not runaway financial crises. See here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=11930100

 

[Cutlass]

I find it amusing that you openly support:

Sedition
Anarchy
and Law Breaking
Extortion
Blackmail

Dont ask me to respect your opinion.

If you read my posts you would have certain knowledge that I am against all those things. But since you've never read any of my posts, and so you believe that ridiculous crap, why do you think the immigration situation has anything to do with them?

 

[Chiteng]

If you read my posts you would have certain knowledge that I am against all those things. But since you've never read any of my posts, and so you believe that ridiculous crap, why do you think the immigration situation has anything to do with them?

You cant be against them. You support millions of people who are doing them daily.
They are doing them right now. And you apparently laud it.

You cant support them, and then claim innocence. That wont work. That is a child's game.

Be an adult, admit your guilt.

You see all I am asking for is that the law be enforced. That is my sin.

 

[Cutlass]

You cant be against them. You support millions of people who are doing them daily.
They are doing them right now. And you apparently laud it.

You cant support them, and then claim innocence. That wont work. That is a child's game.

Be an adult, admit your guilt.

You see all I am asking for is that the law be enforced. That is my sin.

Not much of anyone is actually doing those things... That's just your ignorance and prejudice talking.

 

[kochman]

Those were Fed-induced recessions, not runaway financial crises. See here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=11930100

There is apparently no end to the excuse making here...

 

[Chiteng]

Not much of anyone is actually doing those things... That's just your ignorance and prejudice talking.

Tell that to the members of La Raza.
Tell that to the political organizations that daily threaten congressmen with retribution
if they vote against illegal aliens.

Tell that to clergy who give sanctuary to criminals.

Contempt for existing structure is - sedition
Lawbreaking and Anarchy go hand in hand. Telling me some laws are unjust means nothing. If you dont like the law, then get rid of it. If you cant get rid of it, that is tacit
admission that your position is opposed by more than you. You consider your opinion more valid than the majority? Add arrogance to the list

Extortion - 'If you dont vote the way we want, we will hurt you.
Blackmail - Give us what we want, or we will hurt you.

If you truly love universal franchise, no one's vote is better than anothers.
That is what Democracy is supposed to be about.

None of your assertions can be taken seriously from some so compromised
that they support immoral positions.

'I' support enforcing existing laws.

 

[Oruc]

Of course not. People do not ever have the right to take violence to other people except in direct self defense against violence.

So basically they could never have tried to remove these people without you ing about it.

 

[Bugfatty300]

Tell that to the members of La Raza.

La Raza. Really?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

There is apparently no end to the excuse making here...

Unlike your ability to address them when they debunk your claims.

 

[kochman]

Unlike your ability to address them when they debunk your claims.

Sorry, but CFC threads don't count as a source for me, and I'm not going to comb through the entire thread looking for what may be the answer from a legit source.

So, your statement, it's bunk.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

More excuses

 

[Cutlass]

So basically they could never have tried to remove these people without you ing about it.

Not outside the law and basic human decency.

Tell that to the members of La Raza.
Tell that to the political organizations that daily threaten congressmen with retribution
if they vote against illegal aliens.

Tell that to clergy who give sanctuary to criminals.

Contempt for existing structure is - sedition
Lawbreaking and Anarchy go hand in hand. Telling me some laws are unjust means nothing. If you dont like the law, then get rid of it. If you cant get rid of it, that is tacit
admission that your position is opposed by more than you. You consider your opinion more valid than the majority? Add arrogance to the list

Extortion - 'If you dont vote the way we want, we will hurt you.
Blackmail - Give us what we want, or we will hurt you.

If you truly love universal franchise, no one's vote is better than anothers.
That is what Democracy is supposed to be about.

None of your assertions can be taken seriously from some so compromised
that they support immoral positions.

'I' support enforcing existing laws.

So what you are saying is that even though less illegal immigrants are criminals than native born Americans, and they don't really have much of an effect on anything, that you have to dehumanize them and use fearmongering to drum up hate.

You haven't given an actual reason for your position yet.

 

[Chiteng]

Not outside the law and basic human decency.






So what you are saying is that even though less illegal immigrants are criminals than native born Americans, and they don't really have much of an effect on anything, that you have to dehumanize them and use fearmongering to drum up hate.

You haven't given an actual reason for your position yet.

Those are your words, not mine. Your conclusions are YOURS, not mine.
I dispute anything you have to say on this issue as self-serving.
ALL illegal immigrants ARE criminals.

They need to be identified and deported. The border need to be CLOSED,

 

[kochman]

So what you are saying is that even though less illegal immigrants are criminals than native born Americans, and they don't really have much of an effect on anything, that you have to dehumanize them and use fearmongering to drum up hate.

100% of illegal aliens are criminals... they broke the laws our country has for immigration.

So, now, not less of them are criminals than native born Americans.

No, if you want to qualify your statement with a term like, "violent criminals" or something, you may have a point.

 

[Cutlass]

Those are your words, not mine. Your conclusions are YOURS, not mine.
I dispute anything you have to say on this issue as self-serving.
ALL illegal immigrants ARE criminals.

They need to be identified and deported. The border need to be CLOSED,

It's only a misstatement to be an illegal immigrant. It's not like they're felons or anything.

How many trillions of dollars per year are you willing to spend to close the border? $2trillion a year won't do it. Won't even come close.

 

[Leoreth]

ALL illegal immigrants ARE criminals.

On account of having immigrated illegally, or on other accounts as well?

If it's the former, what's your problem with making all immigration legal? This would "solve" the criminal "problem", don't you think?

 

[Truronian]

Have you ever committed a crime Chiteng?