The Speech

[Patroklos]

was how he addressed every major Republican criticism. He's never done that before.

He simply cateloged them, he didn't address them.

 

[QuoVadisNation]

The video the OP linked to wasn't all that great. If I recall, the speech didn't deflect the damage the controversy caused.

Honestly. I thought the transcript was better than the televised video.

 

[Gooblah]

True, he cataloged them, but the way he did he slightly nullified them. Like the guns line, or the same-sex marriage one. The way he spoke about that, he tried to make it sound like the people who don't believe in the "less radical" thing he proposed were un-American.

Great speech, by the way. My mom was tearing up, my dad was like "God, McCain just got shot!", and my sister and I were just smirking thinking of all the crap both of them will spew out in the next few weeks, irregardless of this good speech.

 

[Merkinball]

Beautiful speech indeed.

Who knew that bashing America was beautiful. Who knew that bashing independence at doing things on your own was beautiful?

Excellent mix of optimism (if sometimes overly optimistic in my view) and jabs at McCain - Augs

It's funny, ya know. The optimistic parts are really rooted in conservative ideology. He starts off explaining how hard work got him and Michele to where they are today. He talks about his hard working mom, and how she worked her way off of food stamps to send her kids to great schools on loans and scholarships. Then he rolls into bashing America non-stop for half the speech. The most ironic aspect of it was that after explaining how he did things on his own, he bashes the notion that people need to work hard and do things on their own. He then falls back into, "I'm gonna give you a whole bunch of s--t that other people earned, irregardless of how hard you've actually worked."

Incredible speech. - Miles Teg

Dude. He lied to you. He lied to you over, and over, and over. It was filled with grotesque amounts of hypocricy. Although, his lies and hypocricy were well delivered.

Are you shipping jobs overseas or creating them here? - JR

Are you dazzled to no end by complete and total BS?

How about giving millions of children a better education? Apparently, that doesn't ring with you. - dwaxe

Do you think Obama is gonna do this? Seriously? One of the scariest things about both campaigns is that neither candidate has said anything about education. Obama's words on the matter last night were kinda scary. Right now we don't have qualified teachers. A good portion of todays teachers become teachers because it's easy to become a teacher. Then you get tenure, and the money rolls right in until retirement. The truly gifted people that should be teaching children are out working in industry and starting up businesses. You cannot throw money at this problem. The only way to fix these issues is to reform the education system from top to bottom. We have spent the last twenty years in this country dumbing down education. We have greatly reduced educational standards at the most basic level. We still have the dropouts. We still have abysmal grades. And now that kids are just scraping by on next to no educational standard, we're outputting more inept people into our society. The reformation needs to occur from Kindergarten and go all the way up to the top. Including university education.

Obama's not going to do this. He's not going to do anything about No Child Left Behind. And throwing government money at an easy degree program which lazy people take up to get a tenured union job is not going to fix things. Recruit an army of teachers? Seriously people. WTH?

His attacks on McCain were lackluster (and disengenuous) - Patrokolos

Some were okay and fair game. But when Obama started talking about withdrawals and judgement it was just absolutely positively infuriating.

he did he slightly nullified them. Like the guns line - Gooblah

No he didn't. And the fact that the entire world didn't stand up and say, "hey wait, that doesn't make any sense!" is proof positive at how uneducated people are. What does the 2nd ammendment have to do with keeping AK-47's out of the hands of criminals? Criminals will...uhhh....newsflash here, get their AK-47's anyway because that's the sort of thing that criminals do.

It was a flashy-dashy comment, but entirely substanceless, and entirely gunning at nefarious regulation.

 

[Kennigit]

I fail to see how hard work is a conservative idea.

 

[AngryZealot]

Who knew that bashing America was beautiful. Who knew that bashing independence at doing things on your own was beautiful?

You clearly did not watch the speech. Obama spent a good 5 or 10 minutes praising American independence. Please stop it with your ridiculous partisan analysis. Even Pat Buchanan liked the speech, and that says a lot.

 

[JollyRoger]

Please get your facts straight.

McCains projected budget increase: 7 billion.

Obamas projected budge increase: 300+ billion.

Which do you think is going to add to government and grow debt?

As for Obamas speech, yeah, whoopee. Its one of the few things the guy is really good at. Lets see how he does in a debate on his feet.

Bush was projecting surpluses, so I put no credence in McCain's numbers. Especially since he is not counting Iraq and Afghanistan in his budget numbers.

 

[JollyRoger]

Would you consider the National Taxpayers Organization non-partisan?

They support the Fairtax, so I would consider them idiots.

 

[sonorakitch]

Who knew that bashing America was beautiful. Who knew that bashing independence at doing things on your own was beautiful?

I was actually referring to the delivery and poise more than the content. As I said, the content warranted and air sickness bag.

But for style, it damn sure was beautiful.

~Chris

 

[Bronx Warlord]

The man talks a good game, I will give him that.

 

[silver 2039]

It was a great speech. I think he has my vote.

 

[Aegis]

So let me spell out exactly what that change would mean if I am President.
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Change means a tax code that doesn't reward the lobbyists who wrote it, but the American workers and small businesses who deserve it.

Unlike John McCain, I will stop giving tax breaks to corporations that ship jobs overseas, and I will start giving them to companies that create good jobs right here in America.

I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow.


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And for the sake of our economy, our security, and the future of our planet, I will set a clear goal as President: in ten years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.

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As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power. I'll help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America. I'll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars. And I'll invest 150 billion dollars over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy - wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and five million new jobs that pay well and can't ever be outsourced.

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Now is the time to help families with paid sick days and better family leave, because nobody in America should have to choose between keeping their jobs and caring for a sick child or ailing parent.

Now is the time to change our bankruptcy laws, so that your pensions are protected ahead of CEO bonuses; and the time to protect Social Security for future generations.

And now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day's work, because I want my daughters to have exactly the same opportunities as your sons.

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Now, many of these plans will cost money, which is why I've laid out how I'll pay for every dime - by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens that don't help America grow. But I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less - because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.

If Obama intends to pursue all of that, he just won my vote.

 

[dwaxe]

Found Video.

 

[sonorakitch]

I will set a clear goal as President: in ten years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.

Again, while eloquently delivered, there is no substance to this, nor did he explain HOW.

How the hell is going to do this in 10 years? Completely and totally impossible. I wouldn't say this again in the same speech as discussing judgement. I think it was a JFK moment with no teeth.

~Chris

 

[Mark1031]

Again, while eloquently delivered, there is no substance to this, nor did he explain HOW.

How the hell is going to do this in 10 years? Completely and totally impossible. I wouldn't say this again in the same speech as discussing judgement. I think it was a JFK moment with no teeth.

~Chris

So JFK explained how he would go to the moon in 10 years along with data on the budget and where the money would come from and what the technology would be? Come on. No politican does details in speeches like that. It is a bit vapid but the same as McCain saying I can save you $100 billion tomorrow in the budget but not saying where.

 

[Cutlass]

Please get your facts straight.

McCains projected budget increase: 7 billion.

Obamas projected budge increase: 300+ billion.

Which do you think is going to add to government and grow debt?

As for Obamas speech, yeah, whoopee. Its one of the few things the guy is really good at. Lets see how he does in a debate on his feet.

But Obama can raise spending and balance the budget. McCain has all but promised that he would not. McCain's economic advisers that go on various tv shows proudly claim that he will not balance a budget before 2013

 

[Cutlass]

[disclaimer: I didn't get to listen to the speech. Is there a transcript available?]

So neither campaign's fiscal numbers add up. Somehow, I'm not suprised.

Good luck! I'm waiting for the debates.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/us/politics/28text-obama.html

The following is the transcript of Senator Barack Obama's acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, as recorded by CQ Transcriptions.

 

[AngryZealot]

Again, while eloquently delivered, there is no substance to this, nor did he explain HOW.

How the hell is going to do this in 10 years? Completely and totally impossible. I wouldn't say this again in the same speech as discussing judgement. I think it was a JFK moment with no teeth.

You said it: a JFK moment. They didn't think we could land on the moon in 10 years either.

 

[Miles Teg]

Would you consider the National Taxpayers Organization non-partisan?

Let's see something from a site that hasn't taken time out from it's mission to write an editorial for McCain.

He simply cataloged them, he didn't address them.

Did you watch his speech? He listed off a complaint and then answered it.

Who knew that bashing America was beautiful. Who knew that bashing independence at doing things on your own was beautiful?

He didn't bash America, he bashed the administration of the last eight years that hasn't listened to Americans. His speech was about how great ordinary Americans are. But if your looking for him to praise the millionares in the White House, try McCain. We are better than the last eight years.

It's funny, ya know. The optimistic parts are really rooted in conservative ideology. He starts off explaining how hard work got him and Michele to where they are today. He talks about his hard working mom, and how she worked her way off of food stamps to send her kids to great schools on loans and scholarships.

And that's part of his message. He's not a wine track liberal who's had everything handed to him on a silver platter. It's about how, red or blue, We Americans are a hard working lot.

Then he rolls into bashing America non-stop for half the speech

Seriously, if you listened with your ears and thought with your head instead of your mouth, you might realize that Obama hasn't been bashing America, he's been bashing American's leadership, who are frankly looking quite unAmerican.

The most ironic aspect of it was that after explaining how he did things on his own, he bashes the notion that people need to work hard and do things on their own. He then falls back into, "I'm gonna give you a whole bunch of s--t that other people earned, irregardless of how hard you've actually worked."

Someone's got a problem with education funding? I mean, I can sorta understand why an elderly woman should be loose her healthcare after she got fired, because she came down with cancer, but not looking out for our kids, that's cold man.

Dude. He lied to you. He lied to you over, and over, and over. It was filled with grotesque amounts of hypocricy. Although, his lies and hypocricy were well delivered.

Anyone who thinks the last eight years have been going great is going to think that. Those of us living in the world of flesh and blood and foreclosures love it. But I'm a tolerant guy, and I have patience for those who don't have to deal with the problems the rest of us American's have to.

Are you dazzled to no end by complete and total BS?

Tough talk from a man who supports the Bush legacy.

Do you think Obama is gonna do this? Seriously? One of the scariest things about both campaigns is that neither candidate has said anything about education.

That's it, it's official. You only tune in to Obama when he slips up. If I had to list the top three things Obama wanted to work on, It would be the economy(partially by improving education), foreign policy, education. If you are seriously suggesting Obama hasn't been talking about education, you haven't listened to a single Obama speech. He slips that in whenever he can.

Obama's words on the matter last night were kinda scary. Right now we don't have qualified teachers. A good portion of todays teachers become teachers because it's easy to become a teacher. Then you get tenure, and the money rolls right in until retirement. The truly gifted people that should be teaching children are out working in industry and starting up businesses. You cannot throw money at this problem. The only way to fix these issues is to reform the education system from top to bottom. We have spent the last twenty years in this country dumbing down education. We have greatly reduced educational standards at the most basic level. We still have the dropouts. We still have abysmal grades. And now that kids are just scraping by on next to no educational standard, we're outputting more inept people into our society. The reformation needs to occur from Kindergarten and go all the way up to the top. Including university education.

Agreed, with the possible exception of University education. We're doing pretty good their.

Obama's not going to do this. He's not going to do anything about No Child Left Behind. And throwing government money at an easy degree program which lazy people take up to get a tenured union job is not going to fix things. Recruit an army of teachers? Seriously people. WTH?

Obama's position is to make teaching a job on the level of the private sector, and heavily reform no child left behind. I recommend you look it up.

Some were okay and fair game. But when Obama started talking about withdrawals and judgement it was just absolutely positively infuriating.

How is saying that the man who cheerleaded an invasion based on horrible intelligence (both meanings of it) 'infuriating'

No he didn't. And the fact that the entire world didn't stand up and say, "hey wait, that doesn't make any sense!" is proof positive at how uneducated people are. What does the 2nd ammendment have to do with keeping AK-47's out of the hands of criminals? Criminals will...uhhh....newsflash here, get their AK-47's anyway because that's the sort of thing that criminals do.

Wrong. I'm a general supporter of Gun Rights, but the automatic weapons ban has been quite effective. Criminals simply don't use AK-47s. That's partially practicality, partially gun laws. Most gun crimes are committed with pistols that gun laws are ineffective in controlling.

 

[sonorakitch]

You said it: a JFK moment. They didn't think we could land on the moon in 10 years either.

People, while landing on the moon is no small feat, it would take a friggin miracle to get off imported oil in 10 YEARS. 10 YEARS.

~Chris