TIL: Today I Learned

[Berzerker]

This research by Professor Taylor confirms his Twin Cycle Hypothesis—that Type 2 diabetes is caused by excess fat actually within both the liver and pancreas, and especially that this process is reversible.

once the rest of the body becomes saturated with fat it gets into the liver and then proceeds to the pancreas where it clogs insulin production

the good news is its reversible, put down the ice cream Berzerker

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-12-overspill-fat-shown-diabetes.html

 

[The_J]

“Only“ worked for 1/3 of the people long term, and included massive weight loss. So even when disregarding the temporary damage, it's nothing I'd bet on.

Great breakthrough though, might need to read the publication.

 

[Berzerker]

it does take a major lifestyle change, but its better never letting it get that far

more leafy greens

do cows and pigs get diabetes?

 

[The_J]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4905825/ quick google check: cows can at least during pregnancy.

I predict no useful google results for pigs, because before synthetic insulin, all insulin was produced from pig insulin, and I think google will probably mostly return results about this.

EDIT: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC385452/ mentions cattle, pigs, sheeps, horses and bisons.

 

[Berzerker]

hmm... I gotta believe cows are on a low fat diet but even they can get diabetes (or IR) during pregnancy

the link says this happens in mammals, I guess because mammals nurse their young and therefore need elevated fat levels or something like that

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Today I learned that the Trans-Siberian Orchestra is actually an American rock band.

 

[Berzerker]

til astrology might be onto something

https://www.bmj.com/content/367/bmj.l6058

better to be born in December than April wrt heart disease

 

[Hrothbern]

Sitting in a pub and having nothing to say on Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance... ?
Long time ago that would be impossible.... I am getting old...

One of the most famous vehicles in literature is coming to the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History. The 1966 Honda Super Hawk ridden by writer Robert Pirsig when he took the trip that inspired the book of travel and philosophy, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, was donated to the museum by Pirsig’s widow Wendy K. Pirsig, along with the leather jacket, maps and other gear from the ride.

But perhaps the most influential book on motorcycle travel is Pirsig’s Zen, published in 1974. Based on a 5,700-mile trip Pirsig took with his son in 1968 from Minneapolis, Minnesota, to San Francisco, California, the fictionalized travelogue, full of philosophical ruminations, has inspired millions of riders, tinkerers, wanderers and thinkers. Subtitled An Inquiry Into Values, the book explores the human relationship to technology via the lens of a traveling rider keeping his machine running.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smit...ycle-maintenance-comes-smithsonian-180973836/

 

[Birdjaguar]

til astrology might be onto something

https://www.bmj.com/content/367/bmj.l6058

better to be born in December than April wrt heart disease

The data is month and season linked. To bring astrology into the picture you will need to to show how astrology has already demonstrated this connection. After the fact attribution doesn't count. Are there any books on astrology that say people born under Aries, Taurus and Gemini are more prone to die from cardiovascular disease?

So far no one has uncovered the hows or whys of these findings. The easy path you take, it's astrology, will always fall short until you can demonstrate the mechanism by which astrology makes things happen. right now, it is just "magic". If being born under Taurus makes one more prone to heart disease, then how does that work? What are the particular forces the weaken those hearts at birth?

 

[Arakhor]

I recall watching a video, I think, that said your mother's midwife exerts more gravitational influence over your birth than the signs of the zodiac do.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Well the signs of the zodiac, being concepts, would exert zero gravitational influence I would expect. Unless you have large tungsten sculptures of them around the bed maybe.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

Today I learned that the Trans-Siberian Orchestra is actually an American rock band.

Its origins are from the progressive metal band Savatage.

 

[Arakhor]

Well the signs of the zodiac, being concepts, would exert zero gravitational influence I would expect. Unless you have large tungsten sculptures of them around the bed maybe.

I'm sure you realised that I meant the stars that compose the signs of the zodiac from our perspective.

 

[Takhisis]

I recall watching a video, I think, that said your mother's midwife exerts more gravitational influence over your birth than the signs of the zodiac do.

What about Cæsarian sections?

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I'm sure you realised that I meant the stars that compose the signs of the zodiac from our perspective.

Well it's more about the planets surely.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

The data is month and season linked. To bring astrology into the picture you will need to to show how astrology has already demonstrated this connection. After the fact attribution doesn't count. Are there any books on astrology that say people born under Aries, Taurus and Gemini are more prone to die from cardiovascular disease?

So far no one has uncovered the hows or whys of these findings. The easy path you take, it's astrology, will always fall short until you can demonstrate the mechanism by which astrology makes things happen. right now, it is just "magic". If being born under Taurus makes one more prone to heart disease, then how does that work? What are the particular forces the weaken those hearts at birth?

Why are you requiring causality for a valid correlation? Unless I am missing something, no one says astrology causes traits. But if there is a valid measurable correlation that makes it potentially useful.

 

[Arakhor]

Well it's more about the planets surely.

That would require me to actually know anything about astrology beyond obviously fraudulent horoscopes.

 

[Takhisis]

Whatever the hell is fraudulent for you about ‘rains of fish in Klatch’, I do ask?

 

[Berzerker]

The data is month and season linked. To bring astrology into the picture you will need to to show how astrology has already demonstrated this connection. After the fact attribution doesn't count. Are there any books on astrology that say people born under Aries, Taurus and Gemini are more prone to die from cardiovascular disease?

So far no one has uncovered the hows or whys of these findings. The easy path you take, it's astrology, will always fall short until you can demonstrate the mechanism by which astrology makes things happen. right now, it is just "magic". If being born under Taurus makes one more prone to heart disease, then how does that work? What are the particular forces the weaken those hearts at birth?

Well, I was joking, but it would be interesting to see if this data changes for women born in the southern hemisphere. I suspect if there is something to the data its about the location of the sun and the climate during gestation. I've heard winter can be depressing for some people so its a little interesting how December babies have the lowest rate. Conceived around the vernal equinox, born in December and missing winter.

The thing is this doesn't appear to impact overall mortality, if it aint heart disease its something else. Maybe Vita D production is a factor, so much of our 'history' was spent in Africa I doubt annual climate shifts played much of a role. But once people left and started getting less sun during winter I can see that becoming a factor.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I recall watching a video, I think, that said your mother's midwife exerts more gravitational influence over your birth than the signs of the zodiac do.

It was Carl Sagan, in the original Cosmos episode "Harmony of the Worlds", who explained that astrology has no scientific basis. One of the things he mentioned was that when a baby is born, the obstetrician exerts a greater gravitational influence than the planet Mars.