Tom Petty shows students something that gets him in trouble.

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Today's election lesson: Students, school referendum don't always mix at polls
By Will Higgins
The Indianapolis Star -- May. 3, 2011

An election worker at a Franklin Township school got an idea this morning, and it seemed like a good one.

At first.

Tom Petty, a poll inspector at Precinct 22 in the gymnasium of Kitley Intermediate School on the Southeastside, figured he'd give students a glimpse of democracy-in-action by bringing them into the gym to watch some actual voting.

Petty bounced the plan off the principal and some social studies teachers. Pretty soon down the hallway trooped students from Grades 5 and 6 for their real-time civics lesson. "I was trying to bring alive the act of voting," said a chastened Petty, in the aftermath.

As it turned out, the political temperature in Franklin Township was too hot on Tuesday for a teaching moment. Voters were deciding whether to raise property taxes by $13 million annually for seven straight years to fund the public schools there.

If they decided against it, 81 teachers would be laid off and three schools closed (for Election Day, Kitley's teachers were told to wear something other than their "Vote Yes!" T-shirts).

So there was Chris Shilkett on Tuesday morning, about to hand in his "no" vote.

To do so, he had to wade through several dozen very cute children.

And there was Petty the professor, saying something like: "See boys and girls, what this man is doing today will affect you kids tomorrow."

Shilkett, who lives on 11 acres and whose taxes would go up $1,250 a year if the referendum passed, was thinking: "Oh my God! This is not a vote I want to cast."

He and his wife, Amy, assumed Petty was deliberately using the kids to pressure voters to vote "yes," and, further, that he may have been doing the bidding of school administrators.

They were hopping mad.

Jeff Eaton, the school principal, assured them the whole thing was Petty's idea, and that it wasn't cagey politics at all but social studies.

Chris phoned the Marion County clerk's office, which oversees elections, and complained. He was told, however, that these sorts of hands-on tutorials are common and they're OK. ("We wouldn't consider this to be a violation," said Angie Nussmeyer, a spokesperson for Clerk Beth White.)

The Shilketts pressed on. Amy told Petty to stop at once. "It looked like they were prostituting my daughter!" she said.

The Shilketts' daughter, Faith, 12, is a student at Kitley. She loves the school, and thrives there. The parents also love the school. They give credit to its staff for Faith's recent greatly improved scholastic performance.

But the idea of Faith, or her classmates, being used as props for interests that opposed her family's was galling.

"The school is first-class," said Amy Shilkett, "but we also need to be able to afford our property."

Petty, who lives in Lawrence and insisted he "didn't have a dog in this hunt," stopped his civics lessons abruptly, apologetically. He claimed he'd made "a mistake, an honest mistake."

Later, Principal Eaton was asked if the entire episode -- the civics lesson, the perceived politicking, the proposed $13 million tax hike, the possible school closures, citizens' outrage -- might itself make a good civics lesson for the classroom.

"At this point," Eaton said, "I just want to get this election over."

1. Do you think it was a good idea to show students the voting?
2. Do you believe that the complainer was overreacting?
3. Should Tom Petty get in trouble?
 
Is this thread subject wise in OT aimee?
 
Well a lot of other people use silly titles. So I figured I might as well.
 
Oh, it's not the Tom Petty.

Is there a rule against Aimee bringing up Tom Petty in OT?
 
Yes there is.

"Amy told Petty to stop at once" made me LOL a bit however.
 
The first rule of OT is you don't ask about Tom Petty.
 
This thread is brilliant. I would suppose this didn't coincide with any national election votes, just local, but then again don't know if Canadians get off on national elections as a holiday anyway (so the kids wouldn't be in school). Schools as polling places aren't necessarily ideal either especially when the students are in school (why wasn't this like a high school at least, that's usual here in the US) is a point but I guess it happens.
 
I think it was just a local thing.
 
I read the title and thought that TP had failed to keep it in his pants… oh well…
 
I read the title and thought that TP had failed to keep it in his pants… oh well…

Or maybe whipping out a joint in the middle of the classroom ;)

"This, kids, is a lesson in civil disobedience!"

(During the 2008 superbowl apparently bets were made on whether the halftime performer would smoke a joint during the show. He didn't.)
 
How did this rule come out? Why is Petty banned in OT?
The first rule of OT is you don't ask about Tom Petty.
This is basically the case.

This thread is brilliant. I would suppose this didn't coincide with any national election votes, just local, but then again don't know if Canadians get off on national elections as a holiday anyway (so the kids wouldn't be in school). Schools as polling places aren't necessarily ideal either especially when the students are in school (why wasn't this like a high school at least, that's usual here in the US) is a point but I guess it happens.
No, Canadians don't get a holiday when we have elections. The polling station I had to go to for our election we had last week happens to be in a French immersion school. When I went to vote it happened to be dismissal time (in the middle of the afternoon - don't kids actually have classes anymore?), and I had to fight my way through a crowd of kids to get to the gym where the voting was to take place.

This was an incredibly stupid move on the part of the teacher (referring to the article). There's a reason for the voting age, and in most constituencies the only time underage kids are allowed into a polling station is if they're babies and the mother/father had no other option but to cart the kid along. Dunno about the election laws in the U.S., but this would violate a few in Canada.
 
I'm from the Bible Belt and we often have the polling stations in churches, not sure if that violates anything. It's just that there are so many of them all over the place it was most convenient I think.
 
1. Do you think it was a good idea to show students the voting?
2. Do you believe that the complainer was overreacting?
3. Should Tom Petty get in trouble?

1. Yes. They should see how the system works.
2. Yes. What better way to spark interest in students than with a topic that directly effects them?
3. No.

This seems like a non-issue to me. In the end, voting is done privately. I doubt the assertion that voters were having to "wade their way through cute children" to cast their vote.
 
I thought the fact that the woman thought it was like prostituting her kid was real laughable.
 
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