UK Politics VI - Will Britain Steir to Karmer Waters?

It’s not often I agree with something Tony Blair says, but on this he is spot on:

Blair calls for 'reset' in net zero policy, saying voters won't make sacrifices if they think impact on emissions minimal

Tony Blair has called for a “reset” of action on climate change, to the dismay of some green campaigners, suggesting the government should focus less on renewables and more on technological solutions like carbon capture.

In remarks that have antagonised some in Labour and in industry, the former prime minister said people were “being asked to make financial sacrifices and changes in lifestyle when they know that their impact on global emissions is minimal”.

Blair, who was writing the forward to a new report from his thinktank, the Tony Blair Institute, echoed similar criticism of net zero made by the Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch. He wrote “any strategy based on either ‘phasing out’ fossil fuels in the short term or limiting consumption is a strategy doomed to fail.”

The former Labour leader, whose institute has been highly influential in Labour circles, said that the current climate debate was “riven with irrationality” and suggested net zero was losing public support.

The paper itself, written by the TBI’s Lindy Fursman, said that net zero policies were now being seen as “increasingly viewed as unaffordable, ineffective, or politically toxic”.

In the UK however, climate change policies have retained popularity. The thinktank Persuasion UK said in a report published yesterday that Labour could potentially lose far more seats from disillusioned leftwing Labour voters defecting to the Greens than from those defecting to Reform.

Last week Keir Starmer told conference in London that tackling the climate crisis and bolstering energy security were “in the DNA of my government” and that “we won’t wait – we will accelerate.”

But Blair said that present policy solutions were “inadequate” and said leaders should shift towards a “pragmatic policy” that prioritised technological solutions. He said this was borne out by rising demand for production of fossil fuels, especially in China and India and the doubling of airline travel plus increased demand for steel and cement.

He said he still believed climate was “one of the fundamental challenges of our time” and that renewable energy was necessary. But he said the government needs “to alter where we put our focus”.

Blair said there should be more focus on carbon capture, saying: “The disdain for this technology in favour of the purist solution of stopping fossil-fuel production is totally misguided.” He also called for a major new international embrace of nuclear power and to intensify work on new small modular reactors.

 
Or, put another way, "man paid by the oil industry thinks that since other countries use far more fossil fuels than we do, we should continue to use them too".
 
Go on Greenies – give this a read. You will probably disagree with most of it but you might just learn how scary our Miliband future is.


If Miliband doesn’t U-turn, Britain could face power cuts in months
Lack of ‘grid inertia’ took out Spain and Portugal. We are headed down the very same renewable route



Watching the scenes from Spain and Portugal as Iberians stumbled around wondering what to do without any electricity prompted sepia-tinted memories of the black-outs here in the 1970s. In 1972, the miners went on strike in the middle of winter, reducing supplies to the power stations and triggering power cuts. I can remember doing my school homework by candlelight.

It happened again with another NUM strike starting in the autumn of 1973. On the day before the wedding of Princess Anne and Captain Mark Phillips, Conservative prime minister Edward Heath declared a state of emergency.

The Central Electricity Generating Board decided to switch off power on a rota basis between 7am and midnight every day, with blackouts lasting up to nine hours. Factories (remember those?) and businesses closed with more than a million workers laid off.

The use of electricity for floodlighting, advertising and for the heating of shops, offices and restaurants was banned. Households were without electricity for hours every day. The areas to lose power were listed in the papers each morning and television went off the air at 10.30.

Oil companies were ordered to cut deliveries to private and industrial consumers by 10 per cent, petrol coupons were issued, a 50mph speed limit introduced, a heating limit of 17C imposed on offices and commercial premises and street lighting dimmed.

From Jan 1, 1974 a three-day week took effect and in February Heath called an election with the question “Who Governs?” only to receive the answer “Not You Ted”. Labour were returned to office but the shock of that period would continue throughout the governments of Harold Wilson and James Callaghan, with national bankruptcy, rampant inflation and economic mayhem culminating in the Winter of Discontent.

But while it was difficult it was not a catastrophe. It was still possible to heat your home with coal, cook on gas, listen to a battery powered radio, pay for food in the shops with cash and make a phone call.

What was apparent on Monday in Spain and Portugal was the total dependence we now have on electricity-driven devices and how vulnerable modern society is to a collapse in the grid for whatever reason.

Everything stopped.

Rail transport was paralysed for hours, flights diverted and the Madrid metro shut down. On the roads traffic lights failed, causing huge jams. The mobile phone and internet networks collapsed, while shops closed their doors when their electronic tills failed.

We still don’t know for certain what happened but the finger of scientific suspicion points to the heavy use of solar power. For those of us who have no clue how these things work, we are learning about the importance of inertia in electricity grids. In conventional power systems – fossil-fuel or nuclear – the large, heavy turbines continue to rotate at a constant speed through inertia even when power generation or demand changes.

With renewables, however, there is no inertia, which makes maintaining a stable grid frequency more difficult. This phenomenon is known to the people who run the system. National Grid boffins are trying to design a new approach to keep the system running at the right frequency with renewables. In some regions like South Australia, where there is a heavy use of solar power, systems operators allow gas generators to run to deliver inertia to the grid and maintain frequency.

This seems to be the most likely explanation for what happened in Iberia on Monday and applies to other renewable inputs like wind upon which we are expected increasingly to rely. Does Ed Miliband know about this potential vulnerability and if so why has he not told us about it?

Britain is particularly at risk both because of its switch to renewables as part of the Government’s aim to decarbonise the grid by 2030 and its heavy reliance on imported electricity. We have been close this year. In January during an anti-cyclonic period of no sun or wind which the Germans call Dunkelflaute, a black-out was only averted because of electricity from Norway through the 450-mile interconnector.

But many Norwegians object to paying more for their domestic power to meet overseas demand for their power. They take issue with the poor energy decisions made by their neighbours, like Germany’s ban on nuclear power. Now we can add the UK’s mad dash to decarbonise the grid. Why do we assume that gas and oil will always be available from elsewhere – and why should we import it when it can be extracted from our own North Sea fields if new licences were allowed?

Mr Miliband has been on a mission recently to denounce all and sundry who dare to question the breakneck speed of his decarbonising agenda, though this is a con since we will still need gas as a back-up for the foreseeable future. The next few years will see our ageing nuclear power plants phased out leaving a gap before new ones are built so wind and solar will have to take up the load.

Yet we now discover that this is fraught with uncertainty. Not only are we being left exposed to any breakdown in international supplies but there are inherent issues with renewable generation that may not be resolved by 2030.

The problems may be with us now. The National Grid is investigating unexplained outages that hit the UK’s system hours before Spain and Portugal were plunged into blackouts. There was also an unexplained failure of the Viking Link interconnector between the UK and Denmark.

A few years from now, maybe sooner, the UK will face the same problem as Spain and Portugal, only far worse. Just before the crash on Monday, solar was providing about 53 per cent of Spain’s electricity with another 11 per cent from wind. Gas was providing only about 6 per cent. Ed Miliband wants Britain to be doing even more than this.

At least it is usually sunny on the Iberian peninsula so if they can solve the inertia problem they are blessed with copious solar power. Here, in a cold, high pressure winter with little wind and no sun, those power cuts of 1972/3 will no longer be a distant memory but a present-day reality.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/29/if-miliband-doesnt-u-turn-britain-could-face-power-cuts/
 
Did I stumble onto Facebook? :lol:
 
It does have that feel to it.

MT, your links of that style aren't very interesting and it does feel like you're sending them to us because your grandchildren have learnt better than to respond to them.

You're not actually saying much with them. Just that you disagree with particular people, but your own team is utterly out of ideas.
 
I find Mega Tsunami's links quite relevant.

And by the way, I see every day that many of the generic grandchildren (I don't have any myself) are quietly
going green by adopting electric bicycles and scooters entirely unprompted by confused government policy.
 
The interesting thing is the divergence of opinion within Labour.

At the moment their government's policy objectives are quite
incompatible. I am quite uncertain which way they will go.

But enough about my opinion, what about your own views ?
 

Trans former judge plans to challenge gender ruling at European court​

The UK's only ever judge to publicly say they are transgender is planning to take the government to the European Court of Human Rights over the Supreme Court's ground-breaking ruling on biological sex.

Dr Victoria McCloud, who stepped down from court last year, said the judgement and equality watchdog's new guidance violated her human rights and she felt "contained and segregated".

She said the court had failed to consider human rights arguments that would have been put by trans people and the judgement had left her with the legal "nonsense" of being "two sexes at once".

Two weeks ago, judges at the Supreme Court unanimously ruled a woman is defined by biological sex under equalities law.

It was asked to decide on the proper interpretation of the 2010 Equality Act, which applies across Britain.

Lord Hodge said the central question was how the words "woman" and "sex" are defined in the legislation.

He told the court: "The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms woman and sex in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex.

"But we counsel against reading this judgement as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another, it is not."

Since then, interim guidance says in places like hospitals, shops and restaurants, "trans women (biological men) should not be permitted to use the women's facilities".

Dr McCloud was one of at least two trans people who had wanted to present arguments to the Supreme Court about how its outcome would affect them.

Courts have the discretion to consider arguments from outside "interveners" - but judges often reject such interventions if they conclude they are going to hear all the relevant arguments from others.

The Supreme Court considered arguments on trans issues from the human rights campaign group Amnesty International, but not from exclusively trans activists.

Dr McCloud, 55, came out as trans in her twenties and is one of about 8,000 people to have legally changed the sex on their birth certificate.

She went on to be a High Court Master - judges who often manage complex, expensive cases - and was publicly promoted as a symbol of the modern judiciary's diversity.

She stood down a year ago, saying she could not continue her judicial work amid an increasingly difficult public debate that had led to her being singled out for abuse and criticism.

Following the Supreme Court ruling, Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said it had given "much-needed clarity" for those drawing up guidance.

But Dr McCloud said that far from clarifying the law, the court had not considered how such an outcome would impact the lives of trans people.

"Trans people were wholly excluded from this court case," said Dr McCloud. "I applied to be heard. Two of us did. We were refused.

"[The court] heard no material going to the question of the proportionality and the impact on trans people. It didn't hear evidence from us.

"The Supreme Court failed in my view, adequately, to think about human rights points."

Dr McCloud says she and other campaigners will go to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg to seek a declaration that the actions of the UK government and Supreme Court judgement "violate [her] fundamental human rights".

"Just as the prime minister didn't know what a woman was, actually the Supreme Court don't know because they haven't defined biological sex," said the former judge.

"The answer [in my view] is that a woman in law is someone with the letter F on her birth certificate."

Dr McCloud has a Gender Recognition Certificate - which means her acquired female gender is recorded on her birth certificate. At the same time, the Supreme Court ruling means she is defined as a man for the purposes of the Equality Act.

In its judgement, the court said biological sex refers to "the sex of a person at birth". It emphasises that only women can be pregnant, for example, and women have specific legal protection during pregnancy.

Trans campaigners argue the court did not take into account their view of the complexities of biology. They argue it is impossible for services - from police officers performing a strip search through to restaurants - to truly specify someone's biology, pointing to intersex cases as an example of where biological sex is not binary.

However, gender-critical campaigners say biology comes down to a common-sense assessment of what makes a man or a woman.

"[This judgement] has left me two sexes at once, which is a nonsense and ironic, because the Supreme Court said that sex was binary," said Dr McCloud.

"I am a woman for all purposes in law, but [now under this judgement] I'm a man for the Equality Act 2010. So I have to probably guess on any given occasion which sex I am."

The equalities watchdog's interim guidance says trans women should not be permitted to use women's facilities. It also means trans men - biological females who want to live as men - have to use women's spaces.

The guidance states that "in some circumstances the law also allows trans women (biological men) not to be permitted to use the men's facilities, and trans men (biological women) not to be permitted to use the women's facilities".

For example, trans men could be excluded from women's facilities "where reasonable objection is taken to their presence, for example because the gender reassignment process has given them a masculine appearance", the watchdog told the BBC.

The guidance adds: "Where facilities are available to both men and women, trans people should not be put in a position where there are no facilities for them to use."

Dr McCloud believes dangerous predators could exploit this confusion to further target women.

"This is going to make matters much, much more dangerous," she said. "I am now expected to use male spaces.

"I have female anatomy. It isn't safe for women to use the men's loos. It is as simple as that."

Many gender critical campaigners do not accept the views of some trans people that they have the anatomy of their acquired sex. Campaigners including For Women Scotland - the group that brought the case to the Supreme Court - say women felt unsafe with trans women using female facilities.

Dr McCloud continued: "The approach here is really to treat normal people like me, who just happened to change legal sex decades ago, people who've served their country, worked in the military, doctors, lawyers, nurses, just ordinary, hard-working, peaceable people, as if we're a threat to be contained and segregated."

Maya Forstater, of campaign group Sex Matters, which was part of the case, said: "[Dr] McCloud may wish to undertake this challenge as a personal pursuit, but... any chance of success lies more in the realm of fantasy rather than reality.

"The Supreme Court has just laid out in a clear and unanimous decision precisely how the Equality Act has to be interpreted, and one of the guiding principles of this exercise in statutory interpretation was to ensure that the Equality Act was compatible with the Human Rights Act."

And Kate Barker, of the campaign group LGB Alliance, said: "The needs and wishes of a tiny number of trans women like Victoria McCloud cannot supersede the rights of 34 million women in the UK who need and deserve the privacy, dignity and safety of single-sex spaces."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qw2149yelo
 
The interesting thing is the divergence of opinion within Labour.

At the moment their government's policy objectives are quite
incompatible. I am quite uncertain which way they will go.

But enough about my opinion, what about your own views ?

I kind of hate having to read them. There isn't a human communicating here. Its like those guys who reply everything you say using ChatGPT for endurance. There is less meaning than in birdsong. The words are said on behalf of the paymasters for Blair and the Telegraph, but the sincerity void just makes it unpleasant.

I'm sort of reminded of the idea that Cold War era authoritarian propaganda worked to numb by being omnipresent, exhausting and curdling, rather than effective in changing belief.

So some rich guys can hire a former top politician to present bad faith arguments for extremely shortsighted policy. Depressing.

Similarly depressing is how both yourself and MT don't actually give a damn about the actual issue, only the tribal crap.
 
@ Broken Erika

I rather thought this would go to the ECHR.

In my opinion the law is a right muddle and passing laws has merely
made it worse, and the more laws they pass the worse it will get.


@ Senethro

The fact that you don't like an argument does not make it a bad faith argument.

The policy of closing down UK industry with production shifted to China and then
claiming the credit for reduced omissions, does not seem a good faith argument.

The consequence of government policy may impact us, so it is more than tribal crap.
 
@ Senethro

The fact that you don't like an argument does not make it a bad faith argument.

The policy of closing down UK industry with production shifted to China and then
claiming the credit for reduced omissions, does not seem a good faith argument.

The consequence of government policy may impact us, so it is more than tribal crap.

Didn't say I disliked the arguments, bad faith though they are. I just find these kinds of fake communication eerie. Blair is doing a ventriloquist act with his own body when he speaks.
 
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