United States and Circumcision

[Xanikk999]

Lost sensitivity? Thats just as much a myth as the health benifits of being circumsized. I am a 19 year old male who has been circumsized and i can tell you right now i have no problems with sensitivity or getting an orgasm when i first had sex during my teenage years. I know what a uncircumsized penis looks like and when i saw it it made me cringe.

It looks like a dogs penis sort of.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

Funny, the ability we have to defend issues that were decided for us long before we could develop a personal and genuin opinion on them.

Like what country to be born in? Well, maybe it reflects the fact that a good decision was made in those issues.
(In other words, stop with the appeals to emotion already. That's a logical fallacy right from the start.)

 

[Kal'thzar]

It looks like a dogs penis sort of.

I wonder what the dog penis would look like if you circumsised that

 

[Urederra]

I suspect its a cosmetic thing. if most American penises are cut, and a girl sees an uncut one, the first reaction is "that Penis is different looking" <snip>.

oh, yes, it looks different, lets try it

It does not hurt the doctors to ask the parents, does it?

"How do you like your baby, madam, natural or cut?

 

[Rambuchan]

You guys and your fascination with other people's members worry me.

 

[Xanikk999]

Well i was at a dog park near my house. A dog park is somewhere where people unleash there dogs and the dogs frolic with other dogs. Anyway at this dog park there was this one male dog who went around having sex with all the other dogs (male too!) and he humped my dog and let me tell you the sight was not preety. I only hope it wouldnt look so nasty if it was circumsized!

 

[joycem10]

Cant believe people get this worked up about something so minor. Im circumcized, had the boy circumcized. I dont care, I doubt the kid will care.

 

[Rambuchan]

Well i was at a dog park near my house. A dog park is somewhere where people unleash there dogs and the dogs frolic with other dogs. Anyway at this dog park there was this one male dog who went around having sex with all the other dogs (male too!) and he humped my dog and let me tell you the sight was not preety. I only hope it wouldnt look so nasty if it was circumsized!

OMG! Now you're onto dogs!! :suicide:

 

[nonconformist]

Noncon has One skin, Two skin, Three skin, Foreskin.

 

[Urederra]

Cant believe people get this worked up about something so minor. Im circumcized, had the boy circumcized. I dont care, I doubt the kid will care.

Is not the fact that you are circumcized or not, it is the fact that doctors do it without asking the parents.

I repeat my question.

Is is bigger deal for the doctors to ask the parents if they want hiw male baby to be natural or cut?

 

[Thorgalaeg]

And where does this inclination towards unnecessary surgery come from in USA? I think in Europe nobody does it and never did.

 

[joycem10]

Is not the fact that you are circumcized or not, it is the fact that doctors do it without asking the parents.

I repeat my question.

Is is bigger deal for the doctors to ask the parents if they want hiw male baby to be natural or cut?

Thats BS, I was asked and formally provided my consent to the procedure.

I can tell you definitively that if a doctor performs a circumcision on a child without the parents' consent you have a cause of action for numerous torts including malpractice and battery.

 

[Urederra]

And where does this inclination towards unnecessary surgery come from in USA? I think in Europe nobody does it and never did.

And there is no penis infection epidemies all around Europe either. So, the health reason is completely debunked.

 

[downtown]

Is not the fact that you are circumcized or not, it is the fact that doctors do it without asking the parents.

I repeat my question.

Is is bigger deal for the doctors to ask the parents if they want hiw male baby to be natural or cut?

umm, doctors here DO ask the parents first. Its illegal not to

 

[Urederra]

Thats BS, I was asked and formally provided my consent to the procedure.

I can tell you definitively that if a doctor performs a circumcision on a child without the parents' consent you have a cause of action for numerous torts including malpractice and battery.

Aparently, in many hospitals they do it without asking.

The fact that you were asked does not imply that everybody was asked.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

It's a sad but true fact that nearly every white male born in the United States is circumsized at birth. That means that before the child is allowed to leave the hospital most of the time, he must have his foreskin removed by a doctor. This can have several consequences down the road, most notably a reduction in size, loss of sensativity, and other serious side effects.

The question is WHY? Why is it that the United States, a Christian (or mostly Christian) nation, condones this done to every white male born? Most minorities do not get this done (unless by request), and there are many cases where the parents don't discover this fact until after it's been performed. Most have simply accepted it as the status quo, and since it was done to them and their fathers before them, they accept it. I don't know if this is the truth and if anyone has any hard evidence to support or deny this claim please present it.

Infact, when speaking to many women about the issue, they said that to have it uncircumsized is nasty, horrible and disgusting, and they would refuse them based upon that fact. The only group in the entire world that requires this horrific practice done to every male are the Jewish. But why does it happen in the United States? The Jewish community makes up only a small portion of the total population, and the only other nation that regularly does it with the same frequency as the US is Isreal.

There have been numerous studies done about the subject, but most of the time since it has already been practiced for so long, it remains an issue that gets swept under the rug most of the time, and the practice continues unabbated. I know this sounds more of a rant against this practice but I think that it needs to get out there. This is the primary reason why millions are bombarded daily by advertisements offering increased size, performance, and other things, when the issue could be averted at birth and avoided altogether.

So please, tell me your thoughts, and be civil about it. If I've made any mistakes with what I've said above, I appologize, but if not, then I think that it should be put out there for the people to know and to think about, because this happens to your children and can affect them for the rest of their lives. So before you allow them to become another, please look at the facts and think, what is best for my child?

Circumcision was originally touted as a cure for balanitis (inflammation of the penis due to infection), but with modern bathing practices, this is rarer. Nevertheless, the practice persists, even among non-Jews. There is no truth that penis size is reduced, unless the operator is horribly clumsy. Penile sensitivity (sexual, that is), likewise, is also not reduced.

I don't know what country you live in, but in the US, surgery is not performed without consent unless it is an emergency, so there is no truth to the rumor that it is performed without parental notification. Likewise, there is no universal statement among women that circumcized penises are disgusting. In fact, most women I've talked to find it a curiosity.

The fact is that circumcision is not necessary in this day and age for health reasons, so does not need to be widely practiced. This is the only part of your post that is factual.

 

[joycem10]

The fact that you were asked does not imply that everybody was asked.

Given the current legal atmosphere, I strongly doubt that any doctor or hospital would dare to circumcize a child without parental consent. It would be a criminal act here in PA and would expose the doctor to serious liability including punitive damages.

 

[Urederra]

umm, doctors here DO ask the parents first. Its illegal not to

I have a friend in Pennsylvania who told me that she wasn't asked when she had her male baby. I also have a couple of friends in Minnesota who had male babies last month, but I haven't ask them if they were asked or not (It is a bit embarrasing)

The first poster seems to have the same information about doing it without asking. I wonder now if this is just a missunderstanding or there are some places in the US where they do it without asking.

The reasonable thing is to ask the parents.

I apologize if I was wrong.

 

[joycem10]

I have a friend in Pennsylvania who told me that she wasn't asked when she had her male baby. I also have a couple of friends in Minnesota who had male babies last month, but I haven't ask them if they were asked or not (It is a bit embarrasing)

The first poster seems to have the same information about doing it without asking. I wonder now if this is just a missunderstanding or there are some places in the US where they do it without asking.

The reasonable thing is to ask the parents.

I apologize if I was wrong.

If you have a friend in PA whose kid was circumcized without consent refer them to me, I'd love to have 33.3% of that action.

Under common law relating to torts as followed by every juridiction in the US (except possibily LA) a doctor can and will be sued for perfoming a circumcision w/o consent. There may be some state which has staturorily entrusted the ability to summarily perform circs on kids w/o parental consent, but I strongly doubt it.

 

[Kozmos]

Jewish Conspiracy?