Yeah, i wish i was half the pimp that ol' Ben wasblackheart said:Not to mention he was quite the ladies' man![]()

Yeah, i wish i was half the pimp that ol' Ben wasblackheart said:Not to mention he was quite the ladies' man![]()
America was founded Catholic. The United States government was founded by Protestants, but as cannot be repeated often enough, it did not fully represent the diverse peoples it governed.MattBrown said:Well....if we're going to use that awfully selective view of christiandom, then you're just going to look more wrong.
Who founded the country? Catholics? nope.
Highly subjective...Who settled the western united states? Was it the catholics? Nope. Mormons.
Some of our country's greatest scientists? Jewish.
A stepping stone to rap...?Our country's greatest cultural achivement? Jazz Music. Not invented by whites.
Yes they are. Not practicing of course, but neither are the Protestants.I dont even belive that Catholics are the largest christian group in America.
The American Catholic Church was reaching its peak in the 1950s but then the 1960s came around. WASP culture hasn't been dominant for at least a century.Certainly, the American Catholic church is pretty weak, compared to the rest of the world. We're much more WASP
MattBrown said:Well....if we're going to use that awfully selective view of christiandom, then you're just going to look more wrong.
Who founded the country? Catholics? nope.
Who settled the western united states? Was it the catholics? Nope. Mormons.
Some of our country's greatest scientists? Jewish.
Our country's greatest cultural achivement? Jazz Music. Not invented by whites.
I dont even belive that Catholics are the largest christian group in America. Certainly, the American Catholic church is pretty weak, compared to the rest of the world. We're much more WASP
John HSOG said:If you are comparing Protestants (52%) to Catholics (24%), then no, but if you are comparing one specific denomination (such as Lutherans) to Catholics, then yes, they are.
blackheart said:Not to mention he was quite the ladies' man![]()
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.John HSOG said:If Benjamin Franklin did not help build this country, then I am a Chinese jet pilot. This guy helped found the first non-religious, private college in America (what is now the University of Pennsylvania), is largley responsible for acquiring the assistance of the French during the revolution, not to mention his good press work, inventions, etc. He also helped establish many churches in the Philadelphia area, and not for any one particular sect, but for all faiths, from the Jews, to Catholics, to Protestants. This man was an unbelievable asset to this country and critical to its founding.
Inqvisitor said:"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention."
--Benjamin Franklin (recorded by South Carolina delegate Charles Cotesworth Pinckney)
Yes, Mr. Franklin was quite tolerant of all religious groups.![]()
But no one man can be said to have built this country.
This article, which thoroughly documents the history of the transparent fraud known as the Franklin "Prophecy", appeared almost forty-five years ago in the April-May 1954 issue of Facts, a publication of the Anti-Defamation League. At the time, the authors wrote "This 20-year-old anti-Semitic hoax is circulating again." Today, more than sixty-five years after it was manufactured, the "Prophecy" it is still circulating, a staple of anti-Semitic propaganda. It can be found on a number of web sites maintained by haters and hate-groups. The article is, therefore, still timely and instructive
Another anti-Semitic hoax on history, of a piece with that incredible forgery, The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion, but not as widely distributed nor as successful in creating the pogrom atmospheres that were the achievements of the Protocols, is a speech attributed to Benjamin Franklin during the Constitutional Convention of 1787. The anti-Semitic movement, which founded the hoax, calls it the Franklin Prophecy — ascribing to Franklin a dire warning that unless Jews were expelled from the new nation by Constitutional decree they would ultimately immigrate in great numbers to the detriment of the Christian population.
Of course, no such speech was ever made. But the hoaxers sought to impart an aura of historical credibility to the fake by claiming that the speech is quoted in a "private diary" of Charles Pinckney, Revolutionary leader who was delegate from South Carolina to the Constitutional Convention. They also maintain that the diary is now in the possession of the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia, a bald lie which Henry Butler Allen, director of the Institute, has often refuted. Allen says that "historians and librarians have not been able to find [the diary] or any record of it having existed."
A copy of the forgery was anonymously circulated through the mails this month [May 1954] on stationery captioned WAR DEPARTMENT, OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF. The envelope bore a May 3 postmark from Atlanta, Ga. This is the latest in a series of recent incidents that suggest another revival of the Prophecy. A copy was picked up earlier this year at a Tampa, Fla., bus stop, and there have been recent distributions of it in Nebraska, Pennsylvania and Alabama.
There aren't more WASPs in the entire world than Catholics. Catholic record-keeping isn't what is used in forming demographic statistics. Why would the Church inflate numbers anyway? Bishops don't go up for re-election...MattBrown said:I'm comparing Protestants to Catholics. There are more WASPs than Catholics. Also, catholic record keeping is suspect, because unlike other religions, they keep you on the rolls if you change churches, so their numbers are inflated.
Where would the world be?!Without Jazz music, there is no Rock and Roll. There is no Funk. No R&B. Even American Country music stole some from Jazz. All of those music genres are worldwide
Inqvisitor said:There aren't more WASPs in the entire world than Catholics. Catholic record-keeping isn't what is used in forming demographic statistics. Why would the Church inflate numbers anyway? Bishops don't go up for re-election...
Where would the world be?!![]()
Seriously people complain when I link news from the BNP, but here you source the hate group ADL, which is simply beyond rational debate.John HSOG said:I submit the following link...
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/franklin_prophecy/franklin_intro.asp
Inqvisitor said:Seriously people complain when I link news from the BNP, but here you source the hate group ADL, which is simply beyond rational debate.
The quotes can be found here, but they are from eyewitnesses at the Convention.
http://www.radioislam.net/bush/jewishpower.htm
Inqvisitor said:...but here you source the hate group ADLhttp://www.radioislam.net/bush/jewishpower.htm...
Inqvisitor said:Seriously people complain when I link news from the BNP, but here you source the hate group ADL, which is simply beyond rational debate.
The quotes can be found here, but they are from eyewitnesses at the Convention.
http://www.radioislam.net/bush/jewishpower.htm
MobBoss said:Baseball, Hotdogs, Apple Pie and Chevrolet.
I'm sorryBabbler said:Wow. Just... wow.
I going to say one thing only (not because I have nothing to say, but I don't have enugh space):
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