What are your thoughts on BitCoin?

[aimeeandbeatles]

Personally, my thoughts?

I think they have potential for online transactions and stuff. I don't think they're the second coming, and I'm not going to go to any lengths to get some, but if I got a chance to get some I wouldnt turn it down.

This is what I thought before the thread (which I didn't know about the illegal transaction stuff and libertarian stuff) and my opinion hasnt been changed all that much. Especially not by certain posters trying to make stupid jokes or by people constantly calling them "buttcoins"

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Especially not by certain posters trying to make stupid jokes or by people constantly calling them "buttcoins"

We heard you the first five times. But hey, it's not hypocritical to whine about a thread being rediculous and off-topic while continually pointing out the problems you have with certain people and their stupid jokes.

 

[Dachs]

Perhaps the aggravation is more the constant drubbing. Between buttcoins and *******s and Ron Paul Funbux and we aren't making fun of the currency we're making fun of the people, and not you in particular mind you!, it's funny but it also gets grinding. As has been mentioned there were some scathing topics in December. You've never gotten tired of being amused at being classified as homo-worshiping immoral liberals because you don't want the state to execute people blacks or you aren't "conservative" on some tangentially related issue? Or a man-hating ******** for whatever reason? Or a "statist worshiping tyrant lover" because of how you vote?

Now, this shouldn't be taken as a condemnation of joking or that you shouldn't do it, but in this particular place most of those particular jokes have gotten stale enough that they're reading more like political slogans. Come up with some new ones. Dachs has already set your bar kinda high though, so it may be difficult.

"Grinding"? Seems like a bit of an exaggeration, no? I mean, BTC has come up very episodically on CFC; there was a rash of stuff in December, there's this thread now, and I'm fairly sure there was like one other major thread at some point earlier in 2012.

It's not as though there's awhole group of CFCOTers who sit in a thread constantly, week in and week out, and do nothing except circlejerk about how stupid buttcoinz r gaise. It comes up periodically, usually connected in some way with Zelig doing his weird white-knight shtick, and peters out after a few days if that. Sure, to a degree you might consider it an extension of the circlejerk about how stupid the extremely obnoxiously libertarian Domination3000 is (gaise), and in that sense it could reasonably be described as grating, but a) he constantly makes it a topic himself anyway, because he's an attention whore and b) I'm (mostly) not a part of that circlejerk myself so I feel vaguely insulted by being lumped into that group.

And besides, if libertarian people and libertarian policies are constantly the butt of jokes somewhere, there might be something to the notion that most things connected with libertarianism are laughable. Or, libertarians aren't doing their job of pointing out how other things are laughable, too. Take your pick.

Also, while I'm flattered that you attribute these nicknames to me, I can't take credit for any of them, especially not Dunning-Krugerrand (which is rightly awesome). Credit where it's due: they all came up in the SA forums first.

Eh, he's probably being wise by addressing the tone rather than anyone specific.

Conveniently, addressing "tone" rather than specificities means that one can just say all sorts of random garbage regardless of whether it's possible to substantiate it.

 

[BvBPL]

Nevermind.

 

[Zelig]

More logical fallacies.

Nope, that's not a logical fallacy either.

 

[Nick Carpathia]

Lotsa libertarians gettin' defensive over here.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Lotsa libertarians gettin' defensive over here.

Well, it's one of those grow or die things I think.

Unless, bitcoins have found a really strong niche and are going to stick around even if adoption stalls.

Maybe Argentina.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-13/guest-post-argentines-escaping-capital-controls-bitcoins




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Also, found the OT instruction manual.

Gotta love the ludic fallacy. I can fling that around everywhere. Your argument isn't accounting for unknown unknowns!

 

[useless]

The bitcoin thread (first one) in the somethingawful forums is worth the registration fee alone.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

The registration fee in bitcoins?

okay Im being pretty silly

 

[Nick Carpathia]

Surely you mean the Cosbycoin thread. That I would invest in. After all, they can only go zip zop zoobity bop!

 

[Gamemaster77]

I've heard bitcoins are good for paying for VPN services.

 

[Mise]

@hobbs: If anyone here thinks that they've said or done anything that could sound massively prickish, then they should work on that. I'm sorry if I'm not courteous enough to tell you exactly who sounds like a prick but you'd think it'd be obvious to someone who's on the outside looking in. If you feel that you're so deeply invested in deriding ideas by replacing words with "butt" and posting picture with sarcastic text in lieu of acting like, you know, not a prick, then I'm sure it can be difficult to see.

As someone who doesn't go on SA forums, doesn't care one way or the other about bitcoins, and doesn't really pay much attention to what bizarre theories libertarians on the internet come out with, all I'm seeing is a 5 page circlejerk of massive prickery. It's strange, because I only came to this thread because you posted Dachs's post on the "awesome posts" thread. I read it thinking it would be a classic and awesome dachspwn, but after the first few paragraphs I thought, "huh, this isn't that great at all. In fact, it looks like a crap post to me. Maybe if I read the thread it will make more sense." But it didn't. If anything it made it worse. 5 pages of circlejerking later, and here we are. Yeah I'm sure you guys are having fun in your circlejerk. I mean, I'm sure circlejerks are plenty fun for the people involved. But for anyone who's just walked into a room to find a bunch of guys standing in a circle, pants down, masturbating, it looks pretty weird.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

@hobbs: If anyone here thinks that they've said or done anything that could sound massively prickish, then they should work on that. I'm sorry if I'm not courteous enough to tell you exactly who sounds like a prick but you'd think it'd be obvious to someone who's on the outside looking in. If you feel that you're so deeply invested in deriding ideas by replacing words with "butt" and posting picture with sarcastic text in lieu of acting like, you know, not a prick, then I'm sure it can be difficult to see.

Well as far as I can tell, only one person in this thread meets your standard for prickishness, yet you insisted on lableling 'some people' as the problem. So have you misread the thread and projected prickishness on posters were it did not come from or are you just trying to give Crezth a way to save face through plausible deniability? Or are you really trying to say that everyone who dislikes bitcoins is a circlejerking asshat?

As someone who doesn't go on SA forums, doesn't care one way or the other about bitcoins, and doesn't really pay much attention to what bizarre theories libertarians on the internet come out with, all I'm seeing is a 5 page circlejerk of massive prickery.

Called it! It's officially a meme on CFC now.

It's strange, because I only came to this thread because you posted Dachs's post on the "awesome posts" thread. I read it thinking it would be a classic and awesome dachspwn, but after the first few paragraphs I thought, "huh, this isn't that great at all. In fact, it looks like a crap post to me. Maybe if I read the thread it will make more sense." But it didn't. If anything it made it worse. 5 pages of circlejerking later, and here we are. Yeah I'm sure you guys are having fun in your circlejerk. I mean, I'm sure circlejerks are plenty fun for the people involved. But for anyone who's just walked into a room to find a bunch of guys standing in a circle, pants down, masturbating, it looks pretty weird.

So basically if people disagree with you or Zelig at the same time, it's a circle jerk? It couldn't possibly be that the Zelig, yourself and those who agree with you both are the circlejerkers? Everyone hopped on board to say what great posts you make, but that's not circlejerking because reasons?

That's the problem with this stupid circlejerking meme. People get all high and mighty and throw it out there when it doesn't belong. You've basically got Crezth trolling the 'pro-bitcoin' crowd here while I have stated I don't care for them without going into much detail or even continuing down that line. You've also got Dachs who took the time to explain why bitcoins are derided in detail, but again, without making this huge personal stand on the issue. Yet, somehow we are all circlejerking.

But this gets a pass:

This is what I thought before the thread (which I didn't know about the illegal transaction stuff and libertarian stuff) and my opinion hasnt been changed all that much. Especially not by certain posters trying to make stupid jokes or by people constantly calling them "buttcoins"

Well said Mise.

Mise is wise.

This thread is getting fairly ridiculous.

HA HA LIBERTARDS THAT IS SO FUNNY AND ORIGINAL EVERYONE

He often literally replies to people's post with nothing but 'hahahahahahaha'. I've seen it many times. I wouldn't tell him 'excellent point' because he probably doesn't realize you're being sarcastic.

Because they side with you?

Oh and sure, there are other anti-bitcoin posters in this thread who's sole contributions have been one or two posts and I guess we should lump them in with the 'buttcoin circlejerking crowd' (some of which hadn't even posted before you started down the 'some people are pricks and circlejerkers' path). But you have to prove that they're posting solely to get in on this hot limp-biscuit action and not because, you know, they think bitcoins are stupid. You see, the thread is here, right now (thus they are all going to post at the same time - it's not a conspiracty of the group masturbation club) and some people may actually share similar views on the subject. But due to our favorite new mass-shaming meme, they are all bad posters who only gang up to masturbate together on some topics for lulz and don't have a valid opinion and should be labled bad posters publicly and made to shut up.

 

[Farm Boy]

Made to shut up? Hobbs, since when is disagreeing with somebody on a forum a call to make them shut up? Since when is considering somebody a prick a call to have them banned? I think that's a bit hyperbolic.

Czreth, halp, I haven't had my King of the Hill fix today!

 

[hobbsyoyo]

What's hyperbolic is the incessant use of the word 'circlejerk' in such a way as to invalidate anything that anyone happens to say in disagreement with the person who played the circlejerk card. Sure, it can't forcibly shut someone up, but the way circlejerk is being thrown around is in effect a circlejerk of late. And circlejerking is all about trying to silence differing opinions - as none other than yourself pointed out to me.

 

[shadowplay]

oh jesus bin this thread. just take it and throw it in the trash and then light the can on fire.

 

[Crezth]

Making fun of things on the Internet? Not cool man, we have standards here.

Meanwhile people post stuff on this forum that amounts to earnest imploration that the gypsies should be forcibly exported to India, or that the white and Hispanic races should be kept separate, or that slavery wasn't that bad, and that's all fine - par the course for this forum, I suppose. But you make fun of a failed Internet currency - one whose investment and subsequent collapse due to liars and frauds actually *ruined people's lives* (something conveniently being ignored for the sake of theorizing about the virtues of decentralized currency) - and you're a prick, beyond redemption.

I understand I frequently come off as caustic and hostile. Maybe I'm an angry person, whatever. But I am genuinely puzzled at how bitcoin and its community are somehow beyond reproach, especially on this forum, where the bar for inappropriate speech stops just shy of outright holocaust denial.

Surely you white knights have bigger fish to fry.

 

[Quackers]

I've lost a lot of respect for Dachs after that terrible joke he said to his friend whilst watching Skyfall. I think he thought it was a real zinger too by the way he thought it would be appropriate to mention it.



Also: Mise's post was great. His criticisms feel symptomatic of a lot of threads on here, not just this one.

 

[Farm Boy]

What's hyperbolic is the incessant use of the word 'circlejerk' in such a way as to invalidate anything that anyone happens to say in disagreement with the person who played the circlejerk card. Sure, it can't forcibly shut someone up, but the way circlejerk is being thrown around is in effect a circlejerk of late. And circlejerking is all about trying to silence differing opinions - as none other than yourself pointed out to me.

Huh. As that is one of my favorite phrases I hope I didn't help start that one. It's never meant "shut the hell up" it's always, to me, a pejorative description of a thought processes(yes, assuming I don't mean doughnut time). And really? Of all the pejoratives we use to describe the thought process of those who we disagree with on a specific issue(hai forum time!) this is the one that bothers people? Is it just too visceral? Repressed boarding school memories?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Huh. As that is one of my favorite phrases I hope I didn't help start that one. It's never meant "shut the hell up" it's always, to me, a pejorative description of a thought processes(yes, assuming I don't mean doughnut time). And really? Of all the pejoratives we use to describe the thought process of those who we disagree with on a specific issue(hai forum time!) this is the one that bothers people? Is it just too visceral? Repressed boarding school memories?

It's always been taken to mean 'shut the hell up because you don't have valid opinions because you're just agreeing with people XYZ to troll ABC'. You are literally the person who gave me this definition of circlejerking and you have often cautioned about how the liberal hivemind is coming close to shutting down all dissenting opinion due to the glorious never ending circlejerk.


All I am saying is the words circlejerk has become itself a circlejerk. Mise used it here to say anti-bitcoiners should at the very least not be listened to because they all agree with each other! or they should just shut up. And that's excatly how circlejerking has been used in multiple threads lately.

It's no longer about calling out people who jerkishly troll a user or a dissenting opinion. It's now all about trying to silence dissenting opinion.