What do you need to be virtually self sustainable on a BOAT?

[BCLG100]

Yeah i guess- not as fit as the original presenter though


Does anyone know if Algal nets do ok in open seas, or need to be in the nutrient rich shallows?

what the fella??? who was the original presenter?

 

[Abaddon]

no, the girl has changed from the first series.

 

[BCLG100]

oh right i never noticed just like the blonde one running about pretending to understand what the 'experts' are talking about.

 

[Abaddon]

How easy would it be to toe nets with muscles growing on?

 

[Whomp]

How easy would it be to toe nets with muscles growing on?

Do you mean tow and mussels?

I don't think it's a good idea to have any barnacles or shellfish attached to the boat. It will lead to a lot of problems on the bottom of the vessel.

 

[Bluemofia]

Why not just catch a bunch of seaweed? They are nutritious and delicious if you dry them and add salt. Which should be fairly easy to do.

 

[Elrohir]

Why not just catch a bunch of seaweed? They are nutritious and delicious if you dry them and add salt. Which should be fairly easy to do.

Can you say sushi?!

This is a very old thread. But it's still an interesting idea....being a sea hermit could be pretty cool. I doubt that it's feasible, realistically, but you never know.

 

[Abaddon]

Its my old thread dammit! i bump it every 1000 posts.

Muscles are grown on chains usually in esturys, im just thinking you could somehow drag them behind your boat, providing another string to your diet bow.

The seaweed idea is good. What about providing somthing to encorage growth tha can be harvested?

 

[Disgustipated]

well, I did spend long days out at sea in the navy.

The question is do you want to eat decent or no?

My ship required thousands of people to keep it going.

But the things yuo especially need are food, shelter, and water. You'd need a desalinization plant or device. You'd need shelter, pretty self explanatory. And you'd need food. This is the tough one, In the navy, we had to have our food delivered via helicopter (or we could use unrep lines that connect 2 ships together). You need fruits and veggies to keep from getting scurvy and the likes. And dairy is nice to have (though not a necessity). And meat. though vegetarians will tell you you don't need meat. But they are all crazy. .

The real problem is you'd go insane. Even if you had electricity and a computer capable of running civ4.

 

[Abaddon]

Bumped for 2008 and the newbies.

Also, I was recently made aware of this:

Spoiler :

http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/news/2008/05/seasteading

With a $500,000 donation from PayPal founder Peter Thiel, a Google engineer and a former Sun Microsystems programmer have launched The Seasteading Institute, an organization dedicated to creating experimental ocean communities "with diverse social, political, and legal systems."

"Decades from now, those looking back at the start of the century will understand that Seasteading was an obvious step towards encouraging the development of more efficient, practical public-sector models around the world," Thiel said in a statement.

It might sound like the setting for the videogame Bioshock, but the institute isn't playing around: It plans to splash a prototype into the San Francisco Bay within the next two years, the first step toward establishing deep-water city-states, or what it calls "seasteads" -- homesteads on the high seas.

Within the pantheon of would-be utopian communities, there's a particularly rich history of people trying to live outside the nation-state paradigm out in the ocean. The most ambitious was Marshall Savage's Aquarius Project, which aimed at nothing less than the colonization of the universe. There was also Las Vegas millionaire Michael Oliver's attempt to create a new island country, the Republic of Minerva, by dredging the shallow waters near Tonga. And the Freedom Ship was to be a mile-long portable country costing about $10 billion to construct.

The idea is to create a new country with very different laws.
I guess my prediction of "deep sea algae farming" might see some light. And maybe some new research labs.

And on a related note: if you have an ounce of adventurous spirit and are curious about the ocean, you have to watch this TED talk. The topics are connected, promise. Let's just say there's lots of money and adventure awaiting.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/264

 

[Narz]

Seems like such floating islands would sink eventually without no influx of materials & constant maintainance. Probably be good for one lifetime though but you'll have to train the next generation to relearn to live on land.

You might check out this book.

 

[happy_Alex]

why would anyone want to go to all the effort to live in the sea?

 

[Narz]

why would anyone want to go to all the effort to live in the sea?

I can think of many reasons not the least of which it's not illegal to "squat" in the ocean.

 

[Abaddon]

The solitude, and self sustainabilty challenge.

Not living by any nations rules etc

Go anywhere you like in the world, and still be at home

 

[nonconformist]

Until you have to buy alcohol/fuell/food etc, and require the internet of course.

 

[Abaddon]

Solar power, grow/catch your own.. and wireless

 

[Abaddon]

Until you have to buy alcohol/fuell/food etc, and require the internet of course.

Hence the "self sustainable" part of the threads title

 

[nonconformist]

Solar power, grow/catch your own.. and wireless

There's no chance in hell you'd be able to pick up wireless in international waters. Assuming there are unencrypted connections anyways.

 

[Abaddon]

So how do boats get the internet?

Can it not be beamed by satelliet?

 

[nonconformist]

So how do boats get the internet?

Can it not be beamed by satelliet?

Yeah, but then you're hardly "self sustainable".