What is college like?

I don't drink anyway, I just don't want to study and live around BDSers. I'm not sure I could speak civilly to them.

Well university is supposed to allow you to meet people with other view points as well as study your chosen field.

It is easy at university because when you don't like someone’s views it not to difficult to avoid them. But it does teach you how to deal with people who you believe are completely wrong.

When you leave university you will not be able to escape so easily from people you do not agree with or like much when you get a job.
 
If you don't want to do the party lyfe then you don't have to do it. As someone who spent his first 2 years as a shut in who spent more time playing computer alone than drinking, and then spent my last 2 years doing parties/kick-its/barbecues with friends, I would definitely recommend the latter more. It's a lot more fun.

You'll have to develop a taste for [feces as adjective] beers, and Franzia though. Or you can just turn into a beer snob like me and byob.

I don't drink anyway, I just don't want to study and live around BDSers. I'm not sure I could speak civilly to them.

If you don't want to be part of the scene you don't have to. Uni Libraries are absolutely wonderful places. As someone who's done it both ways though, I would recommend everybody to at least give it a try. But if you don't want to drink you'll easily find many people who share your views and there's tons of other things to do. My school even had substance-free dorms (dorms where alcohol/weed rules were enforced more harshly and were filled with people who generally don't want to go the alcohol/weed/molly route)
 
First of all, don't read Cracked.
 
Don't worry about it. I was worried about a bunch of stupid stuff before college, and after a couple days I was totally fine and adjusted.
 
I read Cracked almost daily, even though its articles are often mistake-riddled and should be read with enough salt to cause your doctor to worry about your sodium intake.

This is a John Cheese article. He's from a poor, abusive family in a rural part of Illinois, and a lot of his articles are specific to that experience. It's fairly likely he went to one of the universities named [cardinal direction] Illinois University. At one point he mentions Southern Illinois University, although he doesn't say he went there. He's geographically closest to Eastern Illinois University. SIU is generally considered better than EIU, but I'm not sure the difference matters much. I did part of a master's degree at EIU, and I see what he's talking about in his article, but a lot of it isn't generalizable to everyone. My undergrad was at a relatively high-ranked small liberal arts college (about 1600 students), so I've seen a couple very different sides of college (/uni for non-USians) in the US.

I have no idea what Israeli universities are like. One of the most important variables is how much you have to pay for it. If Israel is like much of continental Europe and university is close to free, a lot of what he says won't apply. He's poor and the majority of his problems with college have to do, in some way or another, with the financial aspects of it, which are unusually bad in the US (and increasingly so in the rest of the Anglophone world because they like to adopt our bad ideas).

I'll talk about EIU specifically so you can get an idea of where he's coming from. It is a fairly low-ranked state university whose students come mostly from Illinois (especially downstate, but there are a fair number from the Chicago area). It is predominantly an undergrad college and also has a variety of master's degrees, but does not have any doctoral programs. Here are his points, and how the sort of school he probably went to influenced his conclusions:

5 - The first two years of college are a repeat of high school: US high schools outside of wealthy areas aren't exactly known for their academic prowess, and universities that take mostly "average" HS students find that they have to repeat all the HS material over again in the first two years of college if the students are ever going to learn anything that builds on that. Based on his other articles, John Cheese appears to have been an underachieving but bright person, so he would have been made to take the sorts of classes where people actually have to be taught how to use a library. This experience can be avoided somewhat by testing out of and/or having an HS record that indicated you didn't need remedial classes like that. No matter the student, though, intro science courses do have to cover some ground already taught in HS just to make sure everyone is on the same page.

4 - You'll be forced to take classes that have nothing to do with anything: Well, yes and no. Most colleges and universities in the US have distribution requirements, and while broad knowledge is part of being educated, lots of elective classes actually are wastes of time and money. It's hard to know which ones will be before actually taking them. But many of these can be avoided by talking to people ahead of time, and it's important to know things that don't directly relate to your career, so as to avoid becoming a narrow-minded robot.

3 - Failing will cost you severely: Failing is bad in general, but it's especially bad for people who need financial aid to make it through college, which is probably at least 80% of the US student population. Failing courses early on can cut these people off from further financial aid, which can shut them out of college entirely. Any loans they took out to fail those courses will still be there collecting interest, and if they are allowed to retake those courses, they will go even further into debt than they otherwise would.

2 - The friends you make will be temporary: I made the best friends I ever expect to make in college, and I am still very close to quite a few people. I probably learned more from them than from my classes. But it's quite possible not to make good friends, especially if you go to a school that doesn't concentrate the sorts of people you'll want to be friends with. Your mileage may vary.

1 - College isn't the booze-fueled orgy that movies depict: Anybody expecting movies to accurately depict reality is in for disappointment. There is lots of booze and lots of sex and lots of booze-fueled sex at virtually all colleges. But it all depends on who you meet and what social groups you end up in. If you are introverted and tend to shy away from parties, the number of booze-fueled orgies you find yourself in may be zero. This isn't something to be ashamed of.
 
It's a good idea to limit yourself to sex only two or three times per day, especially during exams.
I would go a step further and suggest you only have sex once during an exam. Exceptions can be made if you desperately need white-out.
 
How would people react if I announced that I was from Israel and am a Zionist?

I imagine that wouldn't go down well, but mostly because the majority of people think those who announce an opinion either way on Israel are pretentious tossers. Student Israel activists are the worst.
 
Let's make this simpler. I wish to attain a degree in political science or history. What might my day and coursework be like?

My major is Poly-Sci with a minor in History. (I just finished my first year). I honestly barely read any of my text books and I still got a solid 3.7 in my first year. As long as you do the work, study etc it'll be a breeze. That being said, college is fun for other reasons too so id suggest going. :P
 
It's a good idea to limit yourself to sex only two or three times per day, especially during exams.

I would go a step further and suggest you only have sex once during an exam. Exceptions can be made if you desperately need white-out.

Semi-related story: I knew a guy who came in to take his last final of his life with a beer. And halfway through, he had his buddy bring him a second one to bring it home.

Prof thought it was hilarious and allowed it.
 
4 - You'll be forced to take classes that have nothing to do with anything: Well, yes and no. Most colleges and universities in the US have distribution requirements, and while broad knowledge is part of being educated, lots of elective classes actually are wastes of time and money. It's hard to know which ones will be before actually taking them. But many of these can be avoided by talking to people ahead of time, and it's important to know things that don't directly relate to your career, so as to avoid becoming a narrow-minded robot.

This seems to be mostly an American thing (and perhaps British). The only unrelated courses I had to take were Philosophy and Career Preparation. And these courses are generally quite useful. There were no courses that don't have to do with anything.
 
I think your general education requirement burden, at a US school, will vary a lot, institution by institution. I imagine smaller, private schools will have fewer course requirements than larger public ones.

You can absolutely have a very robust social life without ever drinking or doing drugs. I did, while attending a huge party school.
 
I think I'd like Scotland, except that it has a bit of a leftist problem. How would people react if I announced that I was from Israel and am a Zionist?
If you told them you were Israeli, most people would probably be curious. If you told that you were a Zionist, they would probably feel awkward and try to change the topic. Most people aren't looking for an argument, even in Scotland.
 
"Scotland has a bit of a leftist problem".

Hmm. I wonder if it does.
 
I still don't understand where Mouthwash acquired this particular grudge against Scotland.
 
This seems to be mostly an American thing (and perhaps British). The only unrelated courses I had to take were Philosophy and Career Preparation. And these courses are generally quite useful. There were no courses that don't have to do with anything.

Honestly, I think it's to Europe's detriment. It can be annoying but provided the institution is good enough across the board it's worthwhile.
 
I attend a small liberal arts college (about 1400) which is well regarded (we have PBK so that's something) so my experience will vary from somebody who is attending a public university. For whatever reason we are one of the few schools that boycott the rankings that various media outlets like to create so don't look for us there. What really matters is that my school is academically rigorous and students who apply themselves here have strong placement in good graduate programs (including Ivies) and generally successful careers.

The one thing I can say is that liberal arts colleges require a lot more in regards to distributive requirements (as is the nature of a liberal arts degree). In order to graduate I need 12 credits of humanities, 12 credits of social science, and 12 credits of regular science. Of those requirements no more than 4 can be in any one subject area. The regular science courses are furthermore divided requiring 4 credits from life science, 4 from natural science, and 4 from math/computation, and 8 credits from them must be lab courses. I don't particularly want to get into the advantages/disadvantages of a rigorous liberal arts curriculum but I like it as I'm good at just about every subject and learning is fun.

That all being said, this article is stupid. College is a blast.
 
If you told them you were Israeli, most people would probably be curious. If you told that you were a Zionist, they would probably feel awkward and try to change the topic. Most people aren't looking for an argument, even in Scotland.

"Scotland is an artificial construct, not a real nation-state. Most of the great 'Scottish' intellectuals (Adam Smith, Hume, etc.) actually identified as British and rejected any such notion of a distinct Scottish nationality or intellectual heritage. Today, through supplanting traditional sexual identity the Scottish separatists have sought to replace all independent civil society activism and organization in England with ideological organizations that it creates and/or coopts, that it trains and finances, and that are beholden to an internationalized gay liberal agenda (underwritten by an anti-Christian sexual epistemology and ontology) dealing with identities, rights, governance, the economy, administration, laws, transnational finance and investment, religion, culture, the arts, literature, etc. Therefore we boycott the products of all institutions, businesses and people that do not openly disavow any sort of Scottish independence in order to isolate and weaken them."

Would you go to a university where this kind of thinking was commonplace, even if they were incredibly polite?

I still don't understand where Mouthwash acquired this particular grudge against Scotland.

Isn't Scotland the most Pro-Palestinian country in Europe? I don't like people who reject my right to self-determination.
 
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