What is college like?

We're talking about Palestine because I mentioned Scotland in passing, and that prompted Mouthwash to bring up his long-standing conviction that everybody in Scotland is an escaped Nazi war criminal living under an assumed identity. It doesn't really have anything to do with colleges at all.
 
He goes by "Hamish MacLeish" nowadays. Owns a chip shop over in Partick.
 
Actually, my current residence town has a family owned animal shop named 'Bormann'. It hasn't attracted any suspicion from the locals, the I guess human psychology is rather susceptible to such.
 
We're talking about Palestine because I mentioned Scotland in passing, and that prompted Mouthwash to bring up his long-standing conviction that everybody in Scotland is an escaped Nazi war criminal living under an assumed identity.
Traitorfish, is your last name McGoering?
 
If it's anything like what Cracked says, I'm not going, period. When I heard that college students actually had to read books I thought that it just might focus on learning, but clearly I've been stupid enough to ascribe any sort of competence to mass education for the last time.

This is my rule: If I don't like what I do, if I am not directed onto an efficient platform for learning what I intend to learn, I will not do it. I accept that I may have to waste some time in the process. But this is just insane.

Their point #5 is spot-on, which is why you could just go to community college and transfer into a Bachelors program, if you don't really care about the fraternity / social networking stuff.

Although I think some modern high schools are teaching at the level of some colleges. At least the subjects that some high school people I know are much more collegiate-sounding.

Their point #4 is kind of true, but you can always try to take electives that fit in with your career aspirations. The problem is always about getting the schedules right. Almost always, some class isn't offered when you need it.

Point #3 is true. Always drop a course rather than except any grade lower than a C, and aim for a GPA over 3. You will thank yourself even decades latter, even after you struggle to remember any formulas that you crammed with, that you achieved a good GPA, and don't have any D's in courses that are important.

Point #2 is kind of true. The friends I kept the longest were made in high-school. Most college buddies I made were mostly study/dinner buddies of convenience, that at most lasted 4 years after I graduated. Graduate school programs are a bit more intimate. In general the fewer people per class / major, the more likely you will make some friendships that last a while.

Point #1 is mostly true, after Sophomore year at least. It depends on the culture of school though. Food / alcohol orgies are usually present at least with the Football season, so it's not really like you ever 100% stop, just it isn't 24-7, but more like 20-1 and then like 12-1 then like 4-1 etc.... The higher your career goals and graduation goals, the more likely you will fall in with people who don't party much.


The Cracked article was actually factual and brutally real. Sorry. Maybe you aren't ready for school yet.
 
I'm doing it in Israel, actually, after my service is done.

Then why are you taking an article about US schools so seriously? It may be completely different in Israel, and probably is. Every nation has different attitudes towards post-secondary education, and their institutions are organized according to that attitude. What applies in the US is not going to apply where you'll be going to school.
 
Pretty much.

You'll also see some Republicans using the Basque flag, but you don't see Loyalists with a Spanish flag, presumably because waving the flag of a Most Catholic Majesty would be a bit self-defeating.
 
Pretty much.

You'll also see some Republicans using the Basque flag, but you don't see Loyalists with a Spanish flag, presumably because waving the flag of a Most Catholic Majesty would be a bit self-defeating.

Wouldn't make more sense for Republicans to use Burgundian Crosses and Loyalists the Prince's flag?
 
You do occasionally see Loyalists using the Prince's Flag, actually, in connection to William III, or King Billy as he's known to his fans. He battered the Catholics and he was a Calvinist, so you can understand why he'd be a bit of a favourite with Loyalists of Scots and Scots-Irish extraction.
 
There are no Republicans that identify with Spain in connection to the 80 years war?
 
No, not really. Republicans tend to be, well Republicans. Revolutionary in their sympathies. They tend to actually be pretty suspicious of Catholic power structures and vice versa.

Also, they tend to have only the vaguest picture about continental history.
 
Besides, if Irish Republicans have any loyalties in the context of Spanish history, it's to the Spanish Republicans. A number of ex-IRA men served in the International Brigades, so it's a long-standing connection. The way they see, they've no more reason to love a king in Madrid than a king in London.

It's worth clarifying, Catholicism doesn't play a role in Irish nationalism equivalent to that of Protestantism in Ulster Unionism. Nationalists often identify with Catholicism in the context of Ireland and Irish history, but don't really identify with Catholicism in any global sense. Many of them don't identify with it at all, Wolfe Tone begin the go-to example. Republicans, in particular, tend to be firmly secular and even anti-clerical, and have historically had a very poor relationship with the Church hierarchy. This is as opposed to the Ulster Unionists, who identify much more strongly with Protestantism as an international movement, Loyalists in particular seeing themselves as the very real and active inheritors of Luther and Calvin's struggles against the Roman anti-Christ.

(Unionism outside of the Six Counties is a bit more open, and has historically made space for Catholics, but also has not been a serious political force since the War of Independence. At this point, being a Catholic Unionist is like being a Jacobite: sure, they exist, but who cares?)
 
Some of my friends who went to the US took courses in beer brewing. I don't think I've particularly missed that in my own academic career.
Also, the language requirement that you had would be less necessary here, since high school includes at least 3 foreign languages.

Yeah, the language requirement is a failure of our high school system, though my own language requirement is because my mostly awesome major has some departmental problems. Inexplicably housed in the International and Area Studies faculty, political economy has to keep up by requiring two years of language rather than the College of Letters and Sciences requirement of one. But even my major lets you test out of it, I just came with an unusually deficient language background. I'd mind more if it didn't lead me down this Dutch path, which has enriched my life.

But most of that extra year does two things, it requires social science/humanities types like me to learn some real science (for my life sciences requirement I did an upper division molecular and cell bio course on endocrinology which has infused me with an immensely richer understanding of biology that neither high school nor general interest reading could have provided). And for the science kids, they get some real valuable social science and humanities courses that help keep that part of their brain alive. For all of us, it helps us understand at the very least to be better at deferring to those who know more than we when the need arises.

It also allows a ton of kids to find out what they're really passionate about once they're in a real stimulating environment, being taught by true experts in their fields.

Cal is hard, sure, yeah, but we do something else different too which I think has positives and negatives: if you screw up the college helps you back. As you and others explained to me, in NL you pretty much get to enroll non-competitively, but if you fail your first year, you're out. You're done. Pack your bags. Here, you get second, third, sometimes fourth or more chances. Meanwhile, while their are electives, the curricula I saw at Dutch universities are very streamlined and don't allow for much variation. This might sound weird, but I'm not convinced, to pick my own field as an example, it's better to have everyone learn microeconomics first and macro second, or vice versa, (or the order of taking economics classes vs classes of theories of political economy). Mixing up the ordering of how students learn the material I suspect results in a wider range of total understanding among the population of those students with their respective majors and therefore results in a better educated populace.

Unqualified as I am to make this call, I feel as though you don't get much of a chance to explore and round yourself out in European Universities. Maybe your society already has that covered and it would be redundant, but I'm skeptical.
 
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