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What would you give up for the enviroment.

Which of these rights would you give up to 'save' the planet?

  • The right to own a motor vehicle

    Votes: 34 37.0%
  • The right to own and live in a house

    Votes: 5 5.4%
  • The right to use air travel

    Votes: 26 28.3%
  • The right to eat meat, fish or poultry

    Votes: 8 8.7%
  • The right to unlimited electricity

    Votes: 26 28.3%
  • The right to have as many children as you want

    Votes: 36 39.1%
  • The right to live where you want

    Votes: 10 10.9%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 43 46.7%

  • Total voters
    92
None. I don't want to save the planet anyway.
 
Rights? None. Things? Not much.
 
Cheap corn. Please eliminate the corn subsidy
Cheap meat. Please price aquifer water as a diminishing resource
Luxury vehicles. Please phase in mileage standards along with penalties for too heavy or inefficient urban vehicles
Cheap suburbs. Please use property taxes for the suburbs that actually pay for the city's cost of supplying their 'essentials'

I would also be willing to pay more taxes to set up sustainable energy systems
 
So you want to save the planet: but what rights would you surrender?
What rights would you not surrender if you know that you make a big difference in the quality of life on earth?
 
The right to own a motor vehicle.

If my employer, the UK government, would be sensible about
providing foot paths, bicycle lanes, public transport, home working
and work bathing; I'd quite happily limit my car driving to once a week.


The right to own and live in a house

No, I wouldn't survive in a tent.


The right to use air travel

I would be content for a return airflight once every two years.


The right to eat meat, fish or poultry

No, I need protein. Happy to be rationed.


The right to unlimited electricity

I don't have this right at the moment.


The right to have as many children as you want

Yes, content to be limited to three.


The right to live where you want

I don't have this right anyway.
 
Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill.
 
Air travel and a house. I much prefer traveling by train and houses are far too much work when an apartment does the job just as well.
 
Air travel and a house. I much prefer traveling by train and houses are far too much work when an apartment does the job just as well.

But a house is an investment. An apartment is a money sink.
 
The above aren't "rights", they're "wants".

I'd give up everything except the house and electricity without flinching. I can perfectly well eat bread and grain, bike, have one child, and live in North Armpit, and compensate by communicating with people and reading books on the Internet. Then we can work on sustainable electricity sources.
 
I chose the easy ones, motor vehicle and children. Just put me in a nice city like Hong Kong or Singapore and I can very easily do without a car.
 
We all need to consume less, and use the freed up resources to invest on technologies that reduce pollution, simple

But a house is an investment. An apartment is a money sink.

I strongly disagree, apartments are better because they are always located on a more relevant part of the town instead in a God-forsaken suburb far away from everything.
 
There is no way I'm giving up any of those. I'll gladly limit myself (I got a smaller apartment just so I can walk to school and church, instead of drive), and I am willing to pay more for food...

...but I am not willing to let a bureaucrat somewhere tell me where I can and cannot live, or how many kids I can have. I thought this was a libertarian place?
 
I strongly disagree, apartments are better because they are always located on a more relevant part of the town instead in a God-forsaken suburb far away from everything.

Apartment living is generally better for the environment but there are apartment slums that I you could'nt pay me to live in.
 
There is no way I'm giving up any of those. I'll gladly limit myself (I got a smaller apartment just so I can walk to school and church, instead of drive), and I am willing to pay more for food...

...but I am not willing to let a bureaucrat somewhere tell me where I can and cannot live, or how many kids I can have. I thought this was a libertarian place?

Seconded. I'll stop using a gasoline car when there is something better to replace it. The day the government tells me it's illegal to drive a car or have children is the day I flee the country.
 
Waitwait. The *right*? No, no no. Would I support economic incentives for people to live green? Absolutely. Removal of the *right* to not live green? Absolutely not.
 
I strongly disagree, apartments are better because they are always located on a more relevant part of the town instead in a God-forsaken suburb far away from everything.

I think what he meant was that if you are renting a flat/apartment/whatever you want to call it, then you are gaining the right to use a place as shelter, and nothing more; whereas if you are paying off a mortgage on a house, then you are gaining not only the right to use the house as shelter, but also the ownership of that house, eventually, and all the equity and other lovely financial-type words that come with it.

On-topic: I picked the motor car, air travel and children.
 
None of the above.
 
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