Which films have you seen lately? ΚΓ' - The thread is your movie hegemon.

Nolan was so far up his own backside with TENET, that he had a character indirectly tell the audience not to think too hard about the inverted entropy plot contrivance.

It wasn't subtle. :lol:
 
I haven't watched that, but know the plot. What if we made a movie about living palindromes, right guys? :shake: ^^

Not only did the plot contrivance not work, when you sat down and thought about it.

The main character has no arc and no personality, illustrated perfectly by Nolan opting to give him no name other than 'the protagonist'.

The only person who has an arc, is Elizabeth Debicki's character. She should have been the core of the film, instead of 'boring action man with no internal motivation'.
 
Debicki is great! She should be in more stuff, but she is like 7 feet tall :lol:

Troy has its flaws but it is reasonably entertaining. The Paris/Helen stuff was the worst part for me.

Good to see Samantha Morton in something big. Great actress! Hathaway will probably play Penelope. Assuming the movie touches on the fantastical, I bet Morton plays an odd character.

Clubber, don't get the Punisher reference for Pattinson. (I've actually come to respect him as an actor after so many years of ignoring him after the Twilight movie, which my little sister forced me to see..ugh...I was scarred for life :lol:) His portrayal of the French Dauphin in 2019's The King (Henry V) that showed me he had more.

Sorry but I loved Interstellar. Seen it 3 or 4 times. Just throw out the science :D
 
I can sit though Troy just to watch Peter O'Toole and Brian Cox. Okay, looking at Brad and Eric doesn't hurt my eyes either. ;)

Agreed on Debecki. Samantha Morton was on screen for less than ten minutes in the Harvey Weinstein scandal film She Said, but she was the best thing in it.

Like Pattinson, Kristen Stewart also broke free of the Twilight phenomenon and did good stuff in some smaller indie films, latest with Love Lies Bleeding.
 
Yeah, I liked Troy. I wish they'd have made Achilles into an even more raging narcissist than they portrayed him as being. Granted, that's not the story, but I wish Homer woulda written that way too.

Interstellar I thought kinda overrated, but still decent. I like how it ridiculed the climate movement's position on spaceflight a little at the start(I realize this is a hot take)
 
Maybe it's a nod to Martin Bernal's Black Athena.

Homer's Achilles is a raging narcissist, @Voidwalkin.
I see you do not recall I thought it'd have been a better story if Achilles woulda refused Priam the proper burial of Hector.

I did kinda write it confusingly, on reflection. I didn't mean to imply he wasn't. I mean to imply I wish the movie woulda made him an even bigger jerk than the book did.
 
Homer's Achilles would know that the Gods were in favor of Priam's request. His entire life has been about elevating himself to Godlike status.

It's a strike of Greek irony that he does achieve a form of immortality in the end - by dying.

In a modern context, Achilles would be that guy that would sacrifice his wealth and life itself, for fame. :)
 
I can sit though Troy just to watch Peter O'Toole and Brian Cox. Okay, looking at Brad and Eric doesn't hurt my eyes either. ;)

Agreed on Debecki. Samantha Morton was on screen for less than ten minutes in the Harvey Weinstein scandal film She Said, but she was the best thing in it.

Like Pattinson, Kristen Stewart also broke free of the Twilight phenomenon and did good stuff in some smaller indie films, latest with Love Lies Bleeding.
Really miss O'Toole and Cox makes everything better. I'd say Morton is one of my favorite actresses. She has done a lot of great stuff in smaller films. It is kind of a bizarre indie from years ago but check out 1999 "Jesus' Son" with Billy Crudup - practically an unknown film that was on many top 10 lists that year. A young Morton was fantastic.
Doh!...Corrected.
Ah yeah, that makes sense. He was the best Punisher. Really miss those shows, though I think Daredevil may come back on Disney
 
Daredevil has been re-born -

 
Sleepless and Project Power, both starring Jamie Foxx. Watched both with wife this weekend.

Sleepless was OK. It reminded me alot of the Denzel Washington film Out of Time, in that it was about a cop who was in over his head and having to do all kinds of shady stuff to get himself out of the mess he'd gotten himself into. Pretty fast paced action, hostage-for-MacGuffin storyline where the MacGuffin of the story was a pretty straightforward "bag of drugs", in this case, cocaine, (as opposed to "bag of money"), no frills or thrills with the MacGuffin itself, no mysterious powers, or thumbdrive with secret formula, equations, data or other world-threatening info or any kind of other magic involved. The action was just a kind of basic, lower grade Mission Impossible, style of progression where the hero is sneaking around, tricking people, faking identities, etc., always just one step or split second ahead of disaster, occasionally having a karate battle, shootout, or getting caught, but then escaping. The end is the classic "double-cross" where "it was the trusted friend all along". Pretty mundane and predictable, but still very entertaining.

About halfway through Project Power, I realized that I'd seen it before. It was OK, kind of an X-Men/Heroes/The Boys knockoff basic premise. It also reminded me alot of the Denzel Washington film Out of Time, only this time, the MacGuffin is a hybrid hostage situation, with the magic drug that gives superpowers, where the hostage is the source just like in X-Men: The Last Stand. It used the concept that the show The Boys would borrow, of the characters popping a dose of the super-power drug to get charged with random superpowers. Much like Sleepless, the movie was very entertaining, with good action and some humor, but it did admittedly feel very derivative, like everything that they were doing reminded me of some other famous film I'd already seen, without anything that felt entirely fresh, new or innovative.
 
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I liked Pitt as Achilles, although in the Iliad Achilles is bigger and stronger than everyone else. Still, this wouldn't work in a movie - for the same reason Tom Cruise sold more tickets as Reacher than - eg - Lundgren would.
Sean Bean as Odysseus was also cool -at the time Bean had great presence.

Homer's Achilles would know that the Gods were in favor of Priam's request. His entire life has been about elevating himself to Godlike status.

It's a strike of Greek irony that he does achieve a form of immortality in the end - by dying.

In a modern context, Achilles would be that guy that would sacrifice his wealth and life itself, for fame. :)
Maybe metaphorically, yes. But Achilles dies, like everyone else, and is later met in Hades by Odysseus (who isn't dead but went there).
Besides, his mother was a demigod, which in no way would mean he would become immortal. Compare to Herakles whose father was Zeus himself (and he still went through hell to reach apotheosis).
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Achilles and Alexander (the Great) are both archetypes of the candle that burns twice as brightly burns half as long. Achilles is certainly a prima donna, but I don't think he's a narcissist, otherwise he wouldn't have been so upset at the death of Patroklos.
 
Standard Hollywood ancient broom helmets...

Move over, Ridley Scott: Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey is the latest film criticized for poor historical accuracy following first look​

Matt Damon's helmet is causing quite a stir

Universal Pictures unveiled the first look at Matt Damon in Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey earlier this week – and with the movie having only started filming in January, none of us expected to get a glimpse of it so soon. With that, the internet went wild for the early image, though now it appears not everyone was thrilled with what they saw...

Based on Homer's epic poem of the same name, The Odyssey will follow Damon's Odysseus as he sets off on a 10-year journey from Troy, in the hope of reuniting with his wife Penelope and their son Telemachus. Along the way, though, he encounters all sorts of otherworldly threats including a cyclops and a sea monster.


"The Iliad literally describes Odysseus wearing a kino leather helmet adorned with boar tusks, but Hollywood can never resist the siren song of the generic ancient broom helmet. This helmet is like cocaine to costume designers," one disgruntled fan said of Damon's costume.

Another took to X to echo the criticisms, tweeting: "The Odyssey is set during the age of [heroes] (aka the Mycenaean period) some time around 1200 BC and so the helmets would have been of the boar tusk style, not the corinthian style. The corinthian helmet didn't come into use until the Archaic period, around 700 BC."

Others made clear they weren't bothered either way, however, with a third writing: "I really couldn't care less that the helmet Matt Damon wears in the Odyssey movie is 'historically inaccurate.' News flash: it’s a story! The whole thing never happened!"

As with Nolan, historians recently called out Ridley Scott for the artistic licenses he took with Gladiator 2. "It always amuses me when a critic says to me, 'This didn't happen in Jerusalem.' I say, 'Were you there? That’s the fudging answer'," the filmmaker candidly told Total Film back in November 2023.

The Odyssey releases on July 17, 2026. Benny Safdie, Himesh Patel, Elliot Page, Will Yun Lee, Lupita Nyong'o, Jon Bernthal, Mia Goth, Samantha Morton, Zendaya, Anne Hathaway, Robert Pattinson, Charlize Theron, and Tom Holland are all lined up to star alongside Damon.

 
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Lunatic Farmer, 2025. Part-biopic, part documentary about Joel Salatin’s Polyface Farms, which is organically and traditionally oriented.

Silence of the Lambs, 1991. An FBI trainee with a promising background is asked to profile a notorious serial killer and cannibal, only to realize she’s been sent in to convince said cannibal to help the FBI profile another serial killer currently at large. Great character drama and thriller: I’m a Jodie Foster fan and enjoyed her West Virginia accent. It sounded like she’d worked on it.
 
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