Which Films have you seen lately? 19 - Get Your Film's Name Outta Your Mouth

[tjs282]

Blade Runner isn't really based on Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep

That is correct. Some of the character-names are reused, and some of the basic concepts, but much of the actual plot was dumped, and the main thesis, that androids cannot feel genuine empathy/emotions, was essentially inverted (Batty and Tris Pris arguably show more emotional range than anyone else in the movie!).

But while BR is definitely not a literal adaptation of the book, it does represent a fully-conceptualised reality in its own right.

I believe I remember reading somewhere that PKD also visited the set at one point, and was very happy with what he saw.

EDIT: D'oh...

 

[EvaDK]

Yeah, Ridley showed the skeptical author the now famous 'Hades landscape' opening scene of 2019 L.A., which according to Ridley completely blew Dick away. He unfortunately never got see see the finalized film.

I'm addressing the film adaption. The two best characters in Scott's film, are Batty and Rachael. Batty displays authentic humanity in the end when he saves Deckard and accepts his own death after recalling some of his memories to him. Rachael is equally intriguing, because she is a replicant that isn't aware that she is one. Deckard might also be a 'Rachael' himself.

These elements are not in Dick's novel, but what is in the novel, is Deckard questioning his own nature. He undertakes the test himself, because he at some point isn't sure whether he is human or a Replicant. Both film and novel agree on the viewpoint, that Replicants have the capacity to become more human than humans.

 

[EgonSpengler]

I guess another movie for the "techno-thriller" list would be Blue Thunder (... my god... that's old now).

Good call. Haven't seen that in decades. I wonder how it holds up? That reminds me of Firefox (1982) too.

Is Crimson Tide (1995) a techno-thriller? Or is it just a drama that takes place aboard a nuclear submarine? Or is "...takes place aboard a nuclear submarine" enough to call it a techno-thriller? (In which case, the BBC series Vigil ought to qualify.)

Zero Dark Thirty (2012)?

I also remembered The Manhattan Project (1986) with John Lithgow, which I think I rewatched not long ago. That one is a techno-thriller blended with the '80s "precocious kid" movie, much like WarGames (1983).

 

[Kyriakos]

Yeah, Ridley showed the skeptical author the now famous 'Hades landscape' opening scene of 2019 L.A., which according to Ridley completely blew Dick away. He unfortunately never got see see the finalized film.

I doubt Dick would have been too enthused with inverting his main plot point ^^
Then again, the movie isn't titled after the book, so he might not have minded.

There are so many movies adapted from Philip K. Dick works, that the quality varries. Running Man iirc is also based on a Dick story?
Curious that they never (?) tried to adapt Ubiq - I am sure the adaptation would fail miserably (alter the plot) if not attempted by someone of note, but it is imo his best work (of those I have read). It's also vaguer what happens, due to the effect of the brief final chapter.
Ubiq perhaps can be said to have more of a cyberpunk aesthetic too, since the main characters are mercenary and have psychical powers (ranging from mild to possibly super-hero level- depends on whether any of what is going on is real - and all used for corporate defense and attack).

 

[EgonSpengler]

The Running Man was one of Stephen King's Richard Bachman books. Like Blade Runner, the movie bears almost no resemblance to the book. I think Edgar Wright is working on a new Running Man movie, which I think will be a closer adaptation of the book, rather than a remake of the Arnie movie. I've liked Wright's movies, but he wouldn't be my first choice for this one. I admit that I haven't seen his most recent stuff, though, Baby Driver and Last Night in Soho.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

There are so many movies adapted from Philip K. Dick works, that the quality varries. Running Man iirc is also based on a Dick story?

Are you confusing The Running Man with Total Recall?

 

[Kyriakos]

Are you confusing The Running Man with Total Recall?

No, I just had repressed the memory it was by King. Who often is a hack ^^
=> maybe the movie didn't maim the story at all, then.

 

[tjs282]

I admit that I haven't seen his most recent stuff, though, Baby Driver and Last Night in Soho.

Would recommend Baby Driver.

Nothing really innovative, but the incorporation of the soundtrack into the action is seamless.

 

[EgonSpengler]

The trio who directed the 2022 reboot of Scream (they call themselves "Radio Silence"?) are getting their claws into Escape From New York next.

Spoiler :

 

[Kyriakos]

The trio who directed the 2022 reboot of Scream (they call themselves "Radio Silence"?) are getting their claws into Escape From New York next.

Spoiler :

Speaking of the spoilered content, why exactly is someone like Larry David even a celebrity? (then again, I found Seinfeld worse than just boring, so it's just not my style at all ^^ )

 

[Takhisis]

The trio who directed the 2022 reboot of Scream (they call themselves "Radio Silence"?) are getting their claws into Escape From New York next.

Oh FFS. Brilliant, unrepeatable casting now replaced by… what, exactly?

 

[Kyriakos]

Starring Plaid Snakeskin.

By the way, I wasn't aiming for it, but it appears I have to start the new thread. So it will be up soon...

Ok, here it is: https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...ne-was-spreading-lies-about-joseph-20.680510/