While We Wait: Boredom Strikes Back

[Tee Kay]

I'll take 151 - 160. Later this week.

 

[Northen Wolf]

We want you back. :[

I'm still connected to razorvine whenever I'm online and I now I'm on #Nesdnd, if that counts.

Honestly, you unbanned people too quickly who were banned for serious reasons. Might just be that you didn't have a full linguistic grasp of what was going on, that was always my take on it.

Someone says "China sucks" result: person gets insulted then banned anyone unbanning him gets banned.
Kraz says "XYZ person sucks" and then insults that person to be stupid, idiot and whatever else. Result: nothing happens, unless that person disagrees with his opinion. If he does then he gets banned for not obeying rules (what rules ?)

So yes, it's my understanding of fairness, that is the problem here. I don't personally think, that anyone (other than pasi) deserves to be banned for longer than 4 hours. Unless that person starts same topic again when he rejoins. I tried to be fair and understanding, I did not see that much of that behviour amongst other moderators (counting out Dachs, NK and few others, whom I have some respect for). True, I may have been too kind, but there were plenty of people who were exact opposite of me and all I did was try to make this as nice place as CFC is...

#nes is not CFC, we have different rules and operate in a different way.

Then why did we advertise it as chatroom for NESers? Chatroom for *certain* NESers would have been more suitable and would not have confused me into understanding that this is a friendly chatroom that keeps friendly atmosphere in greate respect, just like CFC does. Besides that, original #Nes was for every NESer, despite of what their beliefs or usernames were. If this is not a continuation of original #NES, then sorry, I was seriously mistaken.

 

[Thlayli]

Banning is generally done in a tongue and cheek manner, it's kind of a joke. Even I get banned sometimes.

I think you're taking yourself, and this, far too seriously. But that's just my view.

 

[flyingchicken]

just to demonstrate, here's me doing Youngstown to Zurich:

Spoiler before :

648	Youngstown	571 296			United States of America	 
649	Zaozhuang	528 934			China	 
650	Zaragoza	672 447			Spain	 
651	Zhangjiakou	1 324 973			China	 
652	Zhanjiang	1 668 180			China	 
653	Zhengzhou	2 229 297			China	 
654	Zhenjiang	1 045 716			China	 
655	Zibo	2 740 817			China	 
656	Zunyi	870 315			China	 
657	Zürich	1 054 482			Switzerland

after:

648	Youngstown	571 296	41.1000516	-80.6499481	United States of America	 
649	Zaozhuang	528 934	34.88	117.57	China	 
650	Zaragoza	672 447	41.65	-0.89	Spain	 
651	Zhangjiakou	1 324 973	40.83	114.93	China	 
652	Zhanjiang	1 668 180	21.2	110.38	China	 
653	Zhengzhou	2 229 297	34.75	113.67	China	 
654	Zhenjiang	1 045 716	32.22	119.43	China	 
655	Zibo	2 740 817	36.8	118.06	China	 
656	Zunyi	870 315	27.7	106.92	China	 
657	Zürich	1 054 482	47.38	8.54	Switzerland

 

[North King]

Banning is generally done in a tongue and cheek manner, it's kind of a joke. Even I get banned sometimes.

No, not really. Kicking is done in a tongue-in-cheek manner, and happens all the time, but banning is something else entirely (one would wonder, if it was so jocular, why Northen got bashed for unbanning people so readily).

Northen's spot-on with a lot (if not all) of his criticisms.

Not to say I don't find the place useful (some of the people there can only really be reached there), but it has some serious problems.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Agreed.

 

[Masada]

Niggles is just cut that I kicked him for supporting Imperial(ist) Japan.

 

[Abaddon]

I try to use it to chat to other NESers about orders.. usually in a private chat.
It is obviously a recurring theme of kraz banning me because he can.
Tiresome and childish, nothing more.

 

[Masada]

... I'm going to ignore Abbadon's input because he brings substantially more negatives to bat than positives.

Moderator Action: Not a contribution.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[Abaddon]

#nevermind...

 

[North King]

I should clarify that I don't find it a bad place, per se. I just think kickbanning is a little overused, especially of late. Keep in mind that non-regulars to the channel won't exactly find this as hilarious as people who frequent it do.

 

[spryllino]

I agree with what Thlayli has said here.

In my opinion, NESers who do not behave in an antagonistic manner do not generally get banned, and NESers should avoid sticking their heads above the parapet when they actually have diplo to get done on #nes.

 

[Abaddon]

#nevermind...

 

[Adrogans]

The problem it seems is that many see the mods as being antagonistic themselves with no check.

I simply never got much out of being on #NES and so rarely am there unless to speak with a specific person about a specific NES issue.

EDIT - Or perhaps it is the feeling that the rules are not clearly defined and that they do not seem to apply equally to all. But as I said I am rarely on so I cannot comment if this is true or simply perception.

 

[Kentharu]

Kraz is abusive and should never have had ops in the first place, however if Lighty and Dachs don't remove Kraz as ops/founder then I don't really care. This has happened before and Lighty has had Kraz's ops/founder removed because he was going crazy. If comes to that point then yes they should do it, but as of now, Kraz is just his regular douche bag self, which I'm comfortable with.

 

[Ninja Dude]

*sigh*

Oh #nes, what controversies you bring to our community.

 

[Dachs]

By the way, here's the original city list from Symphony, jal et al.

 

[Abaddon]

Was this from one of his thread where he was trying to get accurate co-ordinates for all major cities?

 

[Dachs]

Getting the coordinates wasn't the issue; figuring out which cities mattered and transposing same onto a map accurately was.

 

[Luckymoose]

EDIT - Or perhaps it is the feeling that the rules are not clearly defined and that they do not seem to apply equally to all. But as I said I am rarely on so I cannot comment if this is true or simply perception.

It isn't about clarity of rules. Rules exist only when it suits the needs of the banner and often times changes depending on the person in question.