While We Wait: Boredom Strikes Back

[Terrance888]

Reminds me: New england is the most common Annex in Canada (or canadian allies) Pwns America senerios. Why?

Same goes for Normandy for Anti-Frenchies, Tuscany for Italian Wars, and the "Oh I'll just take This river and esturaries?"

Unless they go full crazy and use perfectly straight lines.

 

[carmen510]

I thought Alaska was the most common annex for Canada, but I think it might be because New England probably has the most in common with Canada. Pretty much the same climate, a pretty liberal region like Canada, and a culture that is closer to Great Britain and Canada.

 

[Dachs]

(last time the question was asked there were a lot more history etc people, maybe that explains the shift away from the emphasis on story and more complex NES's?)

Well, look at the people who are pushing for that shift. Lotta history majors in that bunch. Plenty of people who aren't. I doubt it's that simple.

 

[Karalysia]

Discuss the causes and consequneces of Toteone's return.

 

[Dachs]

Link plz

 

[Karalysia]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=386186&page=3

 

[qoou]

Could I have some background on toteone btw? I'm guessing I came here after he had left, and he sounds like a pretty cool guy.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

I thought Alaska was the most common annex for Canada, but I think it might be because New England probably has the most in common with Canada. Pretty much the same climate, a pretty liberal region like Canada, and a culture that is closer to Great Britain and Canada.

Alaska is so lightly populated that there aren't many cultural concerns going on regarding who it ends up with, especially if the divergence is early on. There are a few regions, depending on the time, that could have ended up with Canada. For example:

 

[Masada]

#nes isn't working

 

[Dachs]

Works just fine for the 17 people who are there.

 

[Masada]

I get this rather lovely message.

Found

The document has moved here.

Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at embed.mibbit.com Port 80

And when I click here: it says, the URL is not valid and cannot be loaded.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

A thought on designing languages and terms.

Some people like to use English terms for titles and things in non-English languages. I typically view this as simplifying something in order for better and more effective communication, with an admitted cost to the uniqueness of the nation. On the other hand, some people greatly enjoy developing whole new systems of naming, and use them regularly. This helps to enrich and highlight the foreign flavour of a nation, but at the same time it can impede easy understanding.

What do you guys think of this? What do you prefer doing, or prefer to have others do?

 

[Adrogans]

I generally create titles...heh ask Thl I created a whole simple system for the in the NES we are writing. I just haven't posted it yet because I want to get the history done before I post the current government and important people and such.

 

[LittleBoots]

What do you guys think of this? What do you prefer doing, or prefer to have others do?

Usually depends on the time period and flavor of the NES. Something like this

LIKE--Ancient Era Althist (English)---Gunpowder(English)---Ancient Era (made up)---------------------------Gunpowder(made up)--Dislike

I generally think its much more interesting to do something like "God-Talker" (i.e., have interesting names for positions that are conveyed in English but represent something else). Also, (and i'll go ahead and be a little brutally honest here) I am generally very dissatisfied with NES conlangs. I mean, I'm not innocent either. I've put effort into maybe two NES conlangs (and more or less just used the sounds from a real language for the rest, like with Prydda'Annwfyn, which was pretty obviously a ripoff of Celtic, Welsh, and Gaelic), but its a pain in the ass to try to come up with something that sounds good (most important and least heeded), is consistent, and is developed, and then have the NES end in three turns (especially because of the NES aversion to reusing things).

Not trying to be a jerk, but that is how I see it.

EDIT: Also, Masada I'm getting the same thing

 

[Dachs]

Since most NESers don't know much of anything about linguistics, expecting them to make decent conlangs or to extrapolate decent alternate languages is giving them too much credit.

 

[LittleBoots]

Oh, definitely, I'm not expecting much, but that just stops me from being disappointed, not from disliking it One of my best friends and roommates in college was a linguistics major and we would occasionally play around with conlang stuff, but he's the only reason I knew anything about it.

 

[Masada]

I refreshed like crazy and it worked... eventually. Good luck and god speed!

 

[Dachs]

Oh, definitely, I'm not expecting much, but that just stops me from being disappointed, not from disliking it One of my best friends and roommates in college was a linguistics major and we would occasionally play around with conlang stuff, but he's the only reason I knew anything about it.

It's a source of frustration to me when people claim they want original stuff in their fresh-start/non-earth/whatever NESes and then produce only slightly superficially original stuff that's mostly inspired by [insert other thing]. Especially when it's only supposed to be original for the sake of being original.

 

[LittleBoots]

It's a source of frustration to me when people claim they want original stuff in their fresh-start/non-earth/whatever NESes and then produce only slightly superficially original stuff that's mostly inspired by [insert other thing]. Especially when it's only supposed to be original for the sake of being original.

Yeah, originality is not a good in itself. I think its much more important for a culture to be well-thought through and for names to sound good than for all nations to sound like the same mumbo-jumbo but were original.

EDIT: Thanks Masada! But, as you saw, I had no patience and downloaded a chat client. I do like the browser better though, I think.

 

[Dachs]

Yeah, I don't care if somebody says "yeah I'm not going to be original" or "yeah I'm just going to copy [this]" and does it. I lack the originality to do something new myself. Just don't try to cover yourself behind a veneer of inventiveness while stealing everything from someplace else.