While We Wait: Part 5

@Dachs, is that one of these alt-hist novels?
:eek: No, it's a work of Fine Literature by a Russian author in the late 19th century about which I have only heard (and absorbed through quiz bowl) that has to do with fun stuff like WOW NIHILISM. :p
*Cough*Symphony D.*Cough*
Hey, he's actually being relatively quiet. Which in itself is somewhat odd.
The quality of modding has perhaps never been higher and inconsistency of updates is something this subforum has had for its entire 6 or so years of existence.
I would hesitate to say that the quality of modding will exponentially rise as soon as some of these projects about which I have been hearing a lot come to fruition.
It has something to do with newbies getting inflated heads and not waiting for good projects to come to fruition.
We've had that for awhile too, but I gotta say that it is far more pronounced nowadays, though that's probably just my bias coming through. I do hereby blame Iggy for being so damn successful and making all of the relatively new NESers want to follow his act. :p In all seriousness, though, a lot of the best mods on the subforum are actually working on new projects to be released in the next month, perhaps two on the outside. das has got his 1000 BC NES, there are at the very least three althistorical NESes in varying stages of development, Josef is going into a BT sometime soonish, and then Yui is continuing work on his modern NES (which doesn't quite count as a 'best mod' one until he brings it off successfully, which if he does will make him truly awesome). I would say that there are a large number of promising projects from the relatively younger members of the community out, and even if they fail they provide a good deal of learning experience. (Mine did.) I would also like to sneak a plug in and say that coming on IRC, it is easy to get a sense of optimism and something hopeful about the future that sort of Obama type thing, because a lot of the 'secret' upcoming projects are discussed there. When flyingchicken isn't attempting to run an IRCNES. :rolleyes:
 
@Luckymoose, why do I feel like your avatar wants to kill me and eat my liver?

Charles Li said:
There is a vibration in the Force... I can feel that millions are in great pain...

;) It is not just you. I can feed it...

Oh no, someone's being blowing up planets again? :(

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In other news, I spent two hours downloading AVAST anti-virus install only to find the file had been corrupted and won't run. Maybe because I was using Firefox and trying to browse some webpages at the same time. Then I downloaded DiskSentry (less than 2 meg = GOOD) but it needs a service pack I don't have. So I'm currently stuck with Spybot SD and Avria AntiVir which is very out-of-date because the latest update is several times the size of the initial install I downloaded :cry:

I really need a FREE, small (56k-downloadable) reliable anti-virus program. Can anyone reccomend one? plz and thx :)
 
*Cough*Symphony D.*Cough*
I'm trying to be nicer here lately, so I'm going to have to ask that you excuse me for what I'm about to say: go . .. .. .. . yourself.

If there is anybody here who is most focused on results and improvement, and actually trying to figure out how to get those things, it's me. If I . .. .. .. .. . and whine in the process, it tends to be quite well-justified by the apathy, laziness and random bouts of incompetence displayed by this community--the difference is that when I do so, unlike most of the rest of you, I can actually back up my points.

I'm aware it's cool to ostracize people just because they don't like to play the circle-jerk culture-of-nice ballgame and congratulate people who perform to the absolute minimum as if they were Michael Phelps, but I just don't view that as fostering good habits. I'm the community Bad Cop, and if you can't appreciate that, you can go stuff yourself.
 
Ah great. I plan on starting an NES and it looks like I'll be swamped. Oh well.

On a related note, can anyone point me to a list of major cities and ECs for around 1855-1860?
 
No, I'm going by what Iggy and jal told me.
News of them is out, but rumours and gossip has exaggerated them in many different directions- to the point where ~Dark~ is being completely IC in referring to them as turtlement, as ridiculous as that sounds. :p

The Space Hamsters hereby officially support the Penguin peacekeeping operations in Norway.

BTW, any news about the supposed Bigfoot corpse found in America?
We promise that our withdrawal will be quick, and our recently reinstated shadow government nigh-undetectable.

Aww, so much for my world conquest plan using mass armies of cloned Bigfoot soldiers :(
You can always make possum-human hybrid clone armies.

Not quite, but Abaddon did make a While We Wait thread in the Forum Games section.

*shudders violently*

My apologies Dachs- I'll try to be less popular.

By the way, though LINESII is going into hiatus again (my current schedule doesn't allow me to sink hours and hours into updating), I might start running a project like Nesopolis or SteamNES again- I might resume SteamNES (possibly after a BT, where the remaining interested players send their plans for what they would have wanted to happen for the last decade or so), or I might start an altogether new StoryNES.

Here are a few of the new ideas:

SuperheroNES- Standard Superhero fare, but all in one city.
AirshipNES- In a watery world where airships are the dominant form of transportation, players captain these great vessels of the sky in a story of merchants, politics, and adventure... you know, stuff like that.

I'm open to suggestions for other StoryNES ideas.
 
Oh by the way, has anyone here read Fathers and Sons? I need to get my Turgenev on.

Russian schools take their national literature seriously.

I'm open to suggestions for other StoryNES ideas.

I actually have an idea, but sadly it won't be appearing here any time soon because a) it needs much more fleshing out, b) I want to run it myself and c) my mind is presently set on the Iron Age NES project.
 
Take off that lead helmet das! My psychics can't get a reading!... I mean, it must be making your neck terribly sore. :mischief:
 
AirshipNES- In a watery world where airships are the dominant form of transportation, players captain these great vessels of the sky in a story of merchants, politics, and adventure... you know, stuff like that.

On the battle scarred steppe of your mind, all other thoughts should acknowledge this idea as indisputable champion, throw their twisted flint knives into the river and return home to live quiet lives of peace.
 
Take off that lead helmet das! My psychics can't get a reading!... I mean, it must be making your neck terribly sore. :mischief:

To tease you some more, it's supposed to be an original dark fantasy fresh start. :p However, as I said, the concept still needs a lot of development to get it right.
 
semi finals for footbal is on if anyone is interested ill be in NES chat

Nigeria v Belgium

EDIT: AND NIGERIA SCORES IN THE 17TH!!! YEAAAAAA!!!
 
I'm back. :D

Despite all these college shenanigans, I will now be Actually Working On Stuff. (tm)

So, we need to collectively figure out what keeps Dell laptops from getting into IRC, because it's keeping NK and Iggy off, and will keep me off as soon as mine arrives.
 
AirshipNES- In a watery world where airships are the dominant form of transportation, players captain these great vessels of the sky in a story of merchants, politics, and adventure... you know, stuff like that.

I'd think that a watery world would encourage seafaring ships - maybe a world where THE FLOOR IS LAVA would be more appropriate. Also, on an entirely unrelated note, significantly more awesome.
 
I'd think that a watery world would encourage seafaring ships - maybe a world where THE FLOOR IS LAVA would be more appropriate. Also, on an entirely unrelated note, significantly more awesome.

except you know, the impossibility....:(

Your looking for a more fantasy answer like that weird game where all the land "floated" in the air. Skies of Arcadia? Of course if its going to be fantasy you can explain the lava thing away with weird magics (course the land could be explained away by having gas giant type thing and...you know someone else can determine the exact requirements for that, hard pressed to do so anyway....
 
The quality of modding has perhaps never been higher and inconsistency of updates is something this subforum has had for its entire 6 or so years of existence.

What I meant to say is that the quality of updates have increased vastly, but as a consqunence it takes more time to do these updates and because people have only a limited amount of time, they often don't get the update done in a timely fashion. When that occurs, people start losing interest. Then when the level of people drop below a certain level, the mod closes the NES becasue of the very low level of people. Also the higher number of NPCs has also slowed the time of finishing the update.

For example, look at RTOR2.
It has 18 player and 6 NPCs. That's not many compared to some current NESes. Also the length of the updates are a tenth as long as the average now. Thus allowing EQ to have 129 updates, which is a unheard of number today.

I'm trying to be nicer here lately, so I'm going to have to ask that you excuse me for what I'm about to say: go . .. .. .. . yourself.

If there is anybody here who is most focused on results and improvement, and actually trying to figure out how to get those things, it's me. If I . .. .. .. .. . and whine in the process, it tends to be quite well-justified by the apathy, laziness and random bouts of incompetence displayed by this community--the difference is that when I do so, unlike most of the rest of you, I can actually back up my points.

I'm aware it's cool to ostracize people just because they don't like to play the circle-jerk culture-of-nice ballgame and congratulate people who perform to the absolute minimum as if they were Michael Phelps, but I just don't view that as fostering good habits. I'm the community Bad Cop, and if you can't appreciate that, you can go stuff yourself.

Well I'll shut up if your trying to be nicer.
 
To make things clear, I think Symphony is a very important part of the community. Definitely top 3 in importance. My criticisms come from people assuming NES's will fail, whining about the state of NESing constantly, you know, chicken little kind of stuff. It puts a damper on everyone's fun ;)
 
My apologies Dachs- I'll try to be less popular.
:p
Russian schools take their national literature seriously.
What'd you think of it? For example, how's the writing? It would kinda suck if he wrote page-long sentences and used ridiculous amount of adjectives like that prolix dude Faulkner. (Americans really cannot write. ;))
semi finals for footbal is on if anyone is interested ill be in NES chat
1. Wrong kind of football, 2. Can't think about other sports right now, US men's basketball has quarterfinals tomorrow.
So, we need to collectively figure out what keeps Dell laptops from getting into IRC, because it's keeping NK and Iggy off, and will keep me off as soon as mine arrives.
Not using jIRC is a step towards Progress. Use, like, mIRC or something. There are loads of free IRC clients that don't rely on sucky Java.
What I meant to say is that the quality of updates have increased vastly, but as a consqunence it takes more time to do these updates and because people have only a limited amount of time, they often don't get the update done in a timely fashion. When that occurs, people start losing interest. Then when the level of people drop below a certain level, the mod closes the NES becasue of the very low level of people. Also the higher number of NPCs has also slowed the time of finishing the update.
This rings true in many respects, yes, but you can blame North King and others for that little problem. :p Besides, the quality of many of those earlier updates, being truly atrocious, is kinda off-putting from wanting to have anything to do with them anymore. I think that the trade-off was a good one, especially considering what an able and dedicated mod is able to do with it. Obviously each mod needs to determine what level of Quality can be incorporated into their NESing update style and work accordingly; failure to do so means, essentially, failure of the NES. I'm looking at you, Azale.
Matt0088 said:
For example, look at RTOR2.
It has 18 player and 6 NPCs. That's not many compared to some current NESes. Also the length of the updates are a tenth as long as the average now. Thus allowing EQ to have 129 updates, which is a unheard of number today.
Yes, RTOR was nice, but how often in the real world have there been 24 countries? It looks and feels more like a game of Civilization than anything remotely simulating, you know, something that could actually happen. There are a few solutions to that problem, one of which in particular seems to show a good deal of promise: massively reduced stats for NPCs, with the possibility of many countries being permanently NPCed to reduce the necessary number of players. I personally like that because it helps prevent the better players from taking - as is their wont - little tiny . .. .. .. . countries that don't actually matter while the bigger ones are either left NPCed or are given to younger, less experienced players who don't know jack about running them and make dumb errors.
 
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