While We Wait: Part 5

[Luckymoose]

Plus, in the right atmosphere all children can be molded into horrible adults

Those are environments we try to destroy, there is no reason to kill a helpless person because of selfish reasons like "I'm not ready for a kid." If you aren't ready for a kid then wear a condom or don't have intercourse period. Nothing makes me more mad than teenagers who use abortions as birth control.

 

[Dachs]

Those are environments we try to destroy, there is no reason to kill a helpless person because of selfish reasons like "I'm not ready for a kid." If you aren't ready for a kid then wear a condom or don't have intercourse period. Nothing makes me more mad than teenagers who use abortions as birth control.

What about rape victims?

 

[Luckymoose]

What about rape victims?

I am not opposed to that, but it's still better to keep the child. Any rape baby can turn into president.

 

[Kentharu]

What rape baby has turned into a president?

 

[Luckymoose]

What rape baby has turned into a president?

A rape baby turned into the most important cult leader in history. Jesus Christ.

 

[Kentharu]

Uh... what? I thought Jesus Christ was the son of "god". God raped Mary?

i wouldn't say the most important cult leader in history either. Important yes

 

[Luckymoose]

Uh... what? I thought Jesus Christ was the son of "god". God raped Mary?

i wouldn't say the most important cult leader in history either. Important yes

If you believe that she was raped or had an affair with a roman soldier named Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera, which is supported by historical writings and a grave making him a real person, then you could say he is the most important rape baby ever. Or that Mary was a really really good liar.

 

[Yui108]

Uh... what? I thought Jesus Christ was the son of "god". God raped Mary?

if you ask a Mormon...

 

[Adrogans]

*Sits back and waits for the craziness due to last few posts*

 

[Kentharu]

I would advise against this branch of discussion in light of the fact that people get touch about their respective cults

 

[Dachs]

If you believe that she was raped or had an affair with a roman soldier named Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera, which is supported by historical writings and a grave making him a real person, then you could say he is the most important rape baby ever. Or that Mary was a really really good liar.

A single historical writing by an anti-Christian satirist and philosopher who many say was simply attempting to make a pun.

EDIT: Yes don't let's turn this into another branch of OT please.

 

[Luckymoose]

A single historical writing by an anti-Christian satirist and philosopher who many say was simply attempting to make a pun.

EDIT: Yes don't let's turn this into another branch of OT please.

He was backed up by a grave found hundreds of miles away. I do not think he would have pulled that exact name out of his rear end if it didn't have some kind of importance. But I agree we shouldn't discuss the divinity of Jesus right now.

 

[andis-1]

Interesting sentiments for somebody's birthday. Do you want a thread?

go for it. tbh I didnt even remember it was my b-day until my dad reminded me

 

[jeps]

if you ask a Mormon...

again, stop trolling a religion you don't understand.

 

[Daftpanzer]

BTW, seriously, can anyone reccomend a FREE, small (56k-downloadable) reliable anti-virus program? What do you guys use?

 

[Dachs]

go for it. tbh I didnt even remember it was my b-day until my dad reminded me

Well, I don't even make birthday threads most of the time. Clutter and all.

 

[foolish icarus]

The assertion that a prior event determines whatever I do and whatever happens to me, ever, seems a bit wrong. I mean, my knowledge of any sort of physics is horrendously limited, but I would tend to think that since Newtonian, deterministic physics is limited in its approach to, say, quantum mechanics, and that there are elements of unpredictability therein, that compatibilism is somewhat justified. I mean, I wouldn't go all the way and say that there is no law within one has to work, but there are degrees of freedom within that.

Besides, if free will doesn't exist, what's the point in democracy?

The assertion that prior events determine whatever we can do and whatever can happen to us seems unavoidable. For our ordinary purposes, the world is reliable, which is probably a good thing. It's because the rules always apply that we can proceed with the comfortable illusion that nothing is forcing our hands--at any scale we can conceive of, we choose amongst what is available to us.

If you believe that the mind, consciousness, intellect, whatever is a part of the natural world, isn't the process of choosing natural? Now, nature isn't really thought to be deterministic anymore--it's not an unbroken chain, but maybe an...unbroken, stochastic web. Chance makes things fuzzy, but not anywhere we need concern ourselves with as ethical decision makers, since as we don't control the chance it might as well be deterministic.

I guess in summary we're mechanisms that operate, delightfully, in a manner so inseparable from freedom that it might as well be freedom.

 

[North King]

I would advise against this branch of discussion in light of the fact that people get touch about their respective cults

Ironic; you know it's offensive to call them "cults", right?

 

[Yui108]

NK, it's just an OT touch hoped to provoke.

 

[Luckymoose]

Whatever it is considered, worshiping a guy you and no one who told you about him have ever met, is kind of dumb.