While We Wait: Part 5

Masada, let's not forget that the consumer allowed themselves to bind into a contract that they knew they couldn't keep the terms of. No matter how the salesperson spun it, the people who bought into the terms should have had a lawyer present to explain the terms more clearly to the buyer.

Let's never blame the individual... Always blame the corporation. People should be smarter than to bite off more than they can chew, and I have no pitty for them dumbies.
 
So yeah, you know the national debt clock in New York? The big one over by Columbus Circle that's mounted on a skyscraper?

It ran out of numbers. You know, after it passed 10 trillion.

(Consider this a willingness to vote Masada '24)
 
Yo Moose, get on AIM if you can.
 
man this is like really horsehockey life crushing, society destroying limbo
"can you go down low? ooooh how low can ya go LIMBO!!!"
 
yeah, das, i would have to agree that Maximilien Robespierre "The Incorruptible" (vision for france)<<<< Committee of Public Safety under control of the Girondins (no real vision)
 
Thanks Masada, for a very interesting read.
 
Pipe wrench fight :lol:

And to think I danced to this song a few weeks ago on a 80s party in some club. Naturally substantial amounts of alcoholic beverages were involved.
 
(Consider this a willingness to vote Masada '24)
Uh, yeah, about that. Funny story about American citizenship and so on. Though I think his cultural background is possibly too awesome.
 
Masada for Premier of the Commonwealth '24? Screw the Queen (though she should still live long and prosper enough to remain the 2nd richest british woman, after JKR), and the monarchy. lets make it an elected position. ;)
 
I agree Amon, the consumers expected low interest rates and good times both in general and in house prices, through a combination of youth (never having lived through the bad), education (maybe not realising), and through general ignorance. There would have been no "predatory" lending if people were not willing to incur the debt. The companies were stupid though as well, credit card companies do not share data (ever), dislike controls even voluntary on debt shifting and are usually hostile to setting up a register of those with bad credit card records, all of which helped people shift debt from one card to another much the same goes for lax banking standards on the part of banks (they believed the tab would be picked up by government). And the government just encouraged bad habits with easy money, and dodgy policy decisions never quite understanding that it caused most of the bad practices or at least abetted them. And the media was being the media and actively egging on bad practices, "if you have credit card debt, you can roll it onto one card and pay a lower rate" style news coverage on many a current affairs style job; and now their showing utterly no common sense and are blaming the greed in many cases they actively encouraged.

Ignorance will win out, poor decisions will be made, regulations slapped on in a kneejerk reaction by Senators and what have you to &#8220;fix&#8221; the problem, they won&#8217;t fix it, the problems are myriad and mostly institutional. There is no fix, lack of regulation wasn&#8217;t the problem, most of the entities mired in problems were heavily regulated, it was investment banks which bought the toxic securities, and have suffered. They had almost the same regulatory burden as normal banks, the American financial sector is not an unregulated paradise like some people seem to believe its still fairly heavily regulated (comparable to Australia and Europe, there are slight differences but overall they are all fairly heavily regulated). Intelligent regulation is what&#8217;s needed if anything is needed, policy makers need to realise that they set up perverse incentives for banks to make money which should be closed (underwriting standards need to be strengthened, with better requirements for credit checks, and other means of stopping &#8220;to risky&#8221; lending, since it will sink the ability of banks to bundle and sell of mortgages removing the risk from themselves but you want to balance that against denying homes to the poor etc). Policy makers should also realise that they helped create the situation, and take a good hard look at themselves before they enact bad policy, and regulate the sector. If regulation is formulated, it should be comprehensive, well thought out, with an undertaking by government not to slot things into it at a future date that will impair its effectiveness. One can have perfectly sound regulations only to have them destroyed by special interests by the part of government and others, &#8220;a little change here, and a little change there and were talking about big changes&#8221;.

Masada &#8220;24&#8221; Fiscal Dictator of Earth :p
 
Not to mention lawyers are really expensive; the one I work for charges rather cheaply at around 250-300 dollars a hour :mischief:
 
Neroism is in the air.

For our German readers, appears to be quite a nice summary of the positions.
 
Hey been playing quite a bit of Europa Univeralis as of late. The Grand Campaign would make a great nes, especially if I work into it the exploration factor to a certain degree. Have decided to incorporate the Relgious rules I WAS writing into this.... Does anyone know of a map that would suit? I noticed a HoI map in the Map thread but there was no EU map, which would of been great...

If not does anyone have the patience to make one? Perhaps the guy who did that awesome HoI map!
 
Spoiler :
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Might be of use, failing that I reccomend looking up FueroNES
 
I am actually looking at the world map, and having it opened up through exploration (I blank out the areas that the players do not know of yet) In the true essence of the game. I would also be using the provinces. The rules I use I am also planning on having it crossover into Hearts of Iron (with the plan of doing a sequeal from the EU game finish, using the 'Victoria-stage' as a sort of dasian BT.
 
Victoria is worthy of far more than a BT. Much, much more.

Speaking of which, general Vicky question here, what are the odds that you can get the British to agree to 'Fifty-four forty or fight!' in the Oregon dispute? Cause the UK has just kind of been bending over backwards for my US in the VIP 0.2 (with hotfix) game that I was playing, they let that go along with loads of other stuff like the Nicaragua canal.
 
In a homage to thread tradition, snow. We already got it. We got it yesterday, actually. We got some even earlier, but this time it survived the night. Those last few years have been making the whole "Russian winters are really nothing special" campaign look a bit dubious.
 
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