carmen510
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I am actually the true mastermind of every NESer, the collective minds with multi-polar disorder.
While We Wait: The Next Generation
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I am actually the true mastermind of every NESer, the collective minds with multi-polar disorder.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
I kind of want to, mostly to play in my own NES. Not for nefarious purposes, more because I really miss playing in a random map fresh start...
This is where neurotic NPC's come in.
I am actually the true mastermind of every NESer, the collective minds with multi-polar disorder.
But wouldn't that by definition make me the mastermind of every NESer too?
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
N3S III has a great chance of actually getting to the modern age. That, or a LINESII brought out of cold storage, are the NESes with the best chance of finally doing it.
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This.
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This.
carmen510
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@Adrogans: Join mine then, when it starts.
Uh, what exactly is off about the quality of the song in question, lj? Are you just doing a projection of your own personal tastes again?
Ayo what about AFSNES dude?
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Oh, I just meant a random map fresh start. But if AFSNES was restarted I would melt into a shivering pile of happy for about FIVE DAYS.
Ninja Dude
Sorry, I wasn't listening...
I agree, and seeing as how I'm in both, seeing them make it would make me extremely happy. The thing is, both are pretty much on hold.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
*Deep breath* I'm not attacking your taste.
No, the song in your sig is good. Plenty of songs are good. I am not talking about my personal taste to be über. No, I am merely saying that some songs are done with the amount of work required to make it a good song. Just because that I don't like the song in your signature doesn't mean that it is of low quality, it is a good song. I am merely saying that some people are able to tell good songs from bad ones, even though the songs don't fall under those people's tastes. You have to understand what I mean.
But otherwise, yes, I consider myself able to tell garbage from good, even though I don't like a song.
Let's bring this on topic: would it be possible to claim that a given NES has quality, irrespective of how good or bad individual people find it?
The NES as art!
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
All your NES are belong to us.
On the subject of Quality a good read might be Zen and the art of Mortcycle.
The question i pose is how can NESing have quality if quality cannot be defined or generalized. Unless quality is defined as an individual preference and if it is, then wouldn't that make irrelevant?
On the subject of Quality a good read might be Zen and the art of Mortcycle.
The question i pose is how can NESing have quality if quality cannot be defined or generalized. Unless quality is defined as an individual preference and if it is, then wouldn't that make irrelevant?
Cool, a philosophical discussion.
I'm sure things can have quality that isn't just purely subjective. Most people acknowledge that even if they don't like The Scarlet Letter, that it's a classic work of literature. The current stuff, Harry Potter, Twilight, whatever, is probably not going to be around, even if it's widely popular.
I'm sure things can have quality that isn't just purely subjective. Most people acknowledge that even if they don't like The Scarlet Letter, that it's a classic work of literature. The current stuff, Harry Potter, Twilight, whatever, is probably not going to be around, even if it's widely popular.
North King
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If I read it right, this is pretty typical elitist nonsense. Saying "currently popular things won't last" makes little sense; a lot of the best classics were wildly popular in their own days. It's rather like how music critics sneer at popular composers who write for movie scores these days -- the classics in the music world are often from opera, the popular culture of their own day. Stuff is popular for a reason, and people in the modern era are not inherently stupider than people in ye elder days.
Granted, there is some stuff that will not last; Harry Potter is probably among them (mostly because of Book 7). But there always is some that won't last, and some that will. The good stuff is probably popular right now -- the difference between it and popular trash is it will remain popular...
(I eagerly await the day when the response to, "I love the Lord of the Rings" is not, "Trash!" but "Classic!".)
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
The key word you used is Most people. If most people think the Scarlet Letter is a classic work of literature then by that statement you also agree that some people do not think the Scarlet letter is a classic work of literature.
In either case, i don't think the category of "classic work of literature" is a description of quality. Classic works of literature probably have a definition that includes preset limits as to what exactly a Classic work of literature is across the board. Lets say its time constraints. Classic works of Literature are works of literature that were written in a certain time frame or whatever the definition of "Classic work of Literature" is.
Descriptors that give quality such as good, bad, beautiful, ugly, or what have you, are impossible to define across the board. People will always disagree with the definition of good music, that being, the elements that make up the definition of good music, for multiple persons, are different hence no conclusive definition can be reached.
There for quality defined objectively is impossible.
In either case, i don't think the category of "classic work of literature" is a description of quality. Classic works of literature probably have a definition that includes preset limits as to what exactly a Classic work of literature is across the board. Lets say its time constraints. Classic works of Literature are works of literature that were written in a certain time frame or whatever the definition of "Classic work of Literature" is.
Descriptors that give quality such as good, bad, beautiful, ugly, or what have you, are impossible to define across the board. People will always disagree with the definition of good music, that being, the elements that make up the definition of good music, for multiple persons, are different hence no conclusive definition can be reached.
There for quality defined objectively is impossible.
I know. I liked Harry Potter, but I just don't think it has what it takes to become a classic. And I think Twilight is a piece of shoddy writing and won't last either. But who knows, I could be wrong. I wasn't trying to be élitist, but rather just pointing out a few examples of popular things that I don't think will necessarily live on.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Harry Potter will last, Twilight won't.
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