Angst
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And 4:20 is still an hour away in Denmark, making his post even less comprehensible.
i hope you do understand the incomprehensibility was intentional ^^
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i hope you do understand the incomprehensibility was intentional ^^
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Starlife
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OK, this seems like a good time for shameless advertisement. I want to get this going soon, and having a couple more players would be great.
Beneath the Jade Moon is a "lords and lands" NES set in a fictional world. In terms of technology levels, it is analogous to medieval Europe in many ways, but there are some clear differences. The world has been richly detailed, region-by-region, with a comprehensive history developing. Read over the thread for more information. There is a tinge of the fantastical to this world, though it is not overtly a fantasy NES.
In terms of player types, I am looking for competent world-builders and imaginative minds. Being able to world-build with others is a must, as well as having a grasp of basic NES rules. You not only have the opportunity to create a house and its history, but also potentially influence the makeup and history of the region surrounding you (while tying it all in with already-approved lore).
The realm itself is the sociopolitical child of Luseysi "the Pale", the first emperor of the Aulesiri, divine soul of the moon, and the pilgrim of pilgrims who guided the world's dominant race from the ashes of Euleshun (a continent to the north decimated by volcanic eruptions and a harsh, seemingly endless winter) to the green shores of Jyotnun (and beyond). Since Luseysi's time, the realm has seen many emperors come and go, as well as the passing of dramatically different eras: from the initial euphoria of a new land and discovery of its fruits, to a time of native enslavement, Aulesiri dominance, and the establishment of family roots; from a time of religious oppression and a solemn spiritual code, to five decades of strife and the usurping of the throne by a corrupt emperor's brother . . . the realm survives yet, but now in varied shades and rattled spheres of influence. You thus play the role of one of the many lords vying for the sweet nectar of power.
Post an application as soon as possible, if you are interested. The NES is not far from launching. This NES is not for the faint of heart; read the thread and absorb it. If you contain a shred of sincerity in your desire to join our budding world and shape it into something even more interesting than it already is, then you will be welcomed with open arms. Here is the thread.
Oh, and click here for somewhat updated (though obviously not yet complete) maps.
And here is an excellent compilation of useful / relevant posts within the pre-thread (organized by Terrance).
Current Cast of Families
North King: The Emperor (House of Luseysi the Savior)
alex994: House Reinar
Son of Erdrick: House Cyir (if he is still around)
Kraznaya: House Qáhiriyün
bombshoo: House Sotulyn
Massive Attack: House Haerasii
Optical: House Eyiniyas
Azale: House Godhart
Thlayli: House Dyre
The Strategos: House Tonul
Owen Glyndwr: House Ranof
Yui108: House Aakzid
Luckymoose: House Anlan
Devercia: House Ildra
Terrance888: House Garasai-Quacimisa
theDright: House Derfennisy
erez87: House Assange
Beneath the Jade Moon is a "lords and lands" NES set in a fictional world. In terms of technology levels, it is analogous to medieval Europe in many ways, but there are some clear differences. The world has been richly detailed, region-by-region, with a comprehensive history developing. Read over the thread for more information. There is a tinge of the fantastical to this world, though it is not overtly a fantasy NES.
In terms of player types, I am looking for competent world-builders and imaginative minds. Being able to world-build with others is a must, as well as having a grasp of basic NES rules. You not only have the opportunity to create a house and its history, but also potentially influence the makeup and history of the region surrounding you (while tying it all in with already-approved lore).
The realm itself is the sociopolitical child of Luseysi "the Pale", the first emperor of the Aulesiri, divine soul of the moon, and the pilgrim of pilgrims who guided the world's dominant race from the ashes of Euleshun (a continent to the north decimated by volcanic eruptions and a harsh, seemingly endless winter) to the green shores of Jyotnun (and beyond). Since Luseysi's time, the realm has seen many emperors come and go, as well as the passing of dramatically different eras: from the initial euphoria of a new land and discovery of its fruits, to a time of native enslavement, Aulesiri dominance, and the establishment of family roots; from a time of religious oppression and a solemn spiritual code, to five decades of strife and the usurping of the throne by a corrupt emperor's brother . . . the realm survives yet, but now in varied shades and rattled spheres of influence. You thus play the role of one of the many lords vying for the sweet nectar of power.
Post an application as soon as possible, if you are interested. The NES is not far from launching. This NES is not for the faint of heart; read the thread and absorb it. If you contain a shred of sincerity in your desire to join our budding world and shape it into something even more interesting than it already is, then you will be welcomed with open arms. Here is the thread.
Oh, and click here for somewhat updated (though obviously not yet complete) maps.
And here is an excellent compilation of useful / relevant posts within the pre-thread (organized by Terrance).
Current Cast of Families
North King: The Emperor (House of Luseysi the Savior)
alex994: House Reinar
Son of Erdrick: House Cyir (if he is still around)
Kraznaya: House Qáhiriyün
bombshoo: House Sotulyn
Massive Attack: House Haerasii
Optical: House Eyiniyas
Azale: House Godhart
Thlayli: House Dyre
The Strategos: House Tonul
Owen Glyndwr: House Ranof
Yui108: House Aakzid
Luckymoose: House Anlan
Devercia: House Ildra
Terrance888: House Garasai-Quacimisa
theDright: House Derfennisy
erez87: House Assange
Lord_Iggy said:
I'm not a free substitute for Economics 101.
EDIT: I'll elaborate further. Most people have long held opinions on economic questions. Yet the vast majority of those people haven't even the decency to develop the least bit of understanding of economics. The result is frustration. I likened it to Iggy teaching YECs about biology. One can do it, but one has to have the patience of a (secular) Saint and a willingness to deal with certifiable idiots. I have enough issues dealing with undergrads when I'm being paid. As I'm not being remunerated here, I don't see why the hell I should be expected to spend hours dealing with the economic equivalent of YECs here. If you want to debate economics at least crack open a textbook or attend at least attend Economics 101. Otherwise expect to be laughed at.
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Well, thanks for your opinions on this matter Masada. It is good to know that we aren't worth a few hours to you because you aren't being paid and that you feel that one shouldn't be expected to spend hours of his or her time in helping the community. 
Now I will go and donate a few dozen more hours of my time to update my NES for the 20+ players who enjoy it.
EDIT: Can you at least link us to a reputable online version or summary of a good Econ 101 book for us unlearned, unwashed masses?
EDITEDIT: Apologies in advance for the somewhat harsh sarcasm. Woweee.
Now I will go and donate a few dozen more hours of my time to update my NES for the 20+ players who enjoy it.
EDIT: Can you at least link us to a reputable online version or summary of a good Econ 101 book for us unlearned, unwashed masses?
EDITEDIT: Apologies in advance for the somewhat harsh sarcasm. Woweee.
Angst
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... yeah i'm not sure how to defend such a position
edit: well... i'm not particularly sure of the analogy. this hints some sort of stubborn arrogance/unwillingness to learn that i assure you i do not possess personally
and topic-relevant ecos 101 don't take hours to teach and i don't see how your post explains why you posted to begin with
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Here's a question I have: why does Masada need to teach you anything? This isn't 1500 or 1850 where you need an expert around to instruct you. It's not even 1980 where you need to go out and buy a book on the subject. It's 2012. We have the internet. There's a lot of free stuff on it. You know what's a pretty cool aspect of learning? Personal initiative to learn a subject that interests you.
Let's spend two minutes on Google looking for free educational resources. This seems like a pretty solid intro on macroeconomics from Simon Fraser University and it's basically a free textbook.
There's Coursera for more esoteric topics. About.com has a simple but decently equipped set of introductory articles. Boom, done.
Why are we here arguing that a professional should spend a huge amount of time teaching us intro level stuff again?
Let's spend two minutes on Google looking for free educational resources. This seems like a pretty solid intro on macroeconomics from Simon Fraser University and it's basically a free textbook.
There's Coursera for more esoteric topics. About.com has a simple but decently equipped set of introductory articles. Boom, done.
Why are we here arguing that a professional should spend a huge amount of time teaching us intro level stuff again?
Angst
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I don't claim that! He doesn't have any kind of moral obligation to teach us anything.
However, jumping in like that without content is unnecessary. Note that I don't make it into a community problem, I just disliked that specific instance, which is why I replied to it. And his latest post did rightly explain why he didn't have to tell us anything (or implicitly so at least) it just didn't really explain why he went with the equivalent of just calling us derps. If he excused it with frustration, then I could go "ok", and it seemed to be implied in his post, but I'm not sure.
And just a minor thing: It's not particularly huge swaths of time that are needed to go 101 about something. And seeing he does reply to the topic, he apparently have some time to waste.
Not because I'd compare the two of course, the latter is much less demanding, but they're both minute activities.
I didn't get BJ's post concretely. Did he tell us to stop talking about this?
If so... This is a good song. Dunnow.
Link to video.
However, jumping in like that without content is unnecessary. Note that I don't make it into a community problem, I just disliked that specific instance, which is why I replied to it. And his latest post did rightly explain why he didn't have to tell us anything (or implicitly so at least) it just didn't really explain why he went with the equivalent of just calling us derps. If he excused it with frustration, then I could go "ok", and it seemed to be implied in his post, but I'm not sure.
And just a minor thing: It's not particularly huge swaths of time that are needed to go 101 about something. And seeing he does reply to the topic, he apparently have some time to waste.
Not because I'd compare the two of course, the latter is much less demanding, but they're both minute activities.
I didn't get BJ's post concretely. Did he tell us to stop talking about this?
If so... This is a good song. Dunnow.
Link to video.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
Replying with a semi-snarky comment and actually enlightening people as to just why Ron Paul is loony-toon are two very different time-investments.
Besides, you have received some damn good advice: look it up.
Besides, you have received some damn good advice: look it up.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
Why should I look it up?
I didn't partake in the discussion before he showed up, did I? At least I don't recall doing it. I presented nothing of economics that he would criticize; even Symphony's help is misdirected. I attempted to act as nothing but an observer.
And, well, in an argument, Masada showing up saying "lol wrong" just doesn't sustain itself. I can look anything up, but even if I did, it was not Masada giving me a solution. It was Symphony. Masada's first post was pointless. Symphony D's following posts weren't. Yours weren't. Masada's second post weren't. Much of what you've said afterwards is plenty helpful. I still do stand by my original statement, to Masada's original post.
For I didn't think Masada's post was to Ron Paul specifically as the discussion didn't just touch upon him, it honestly just seemed like more more broad swoop at everyone in the discussion; that they were all unfit to discuss that topic and that they should feel bad. Again, that's most probably true. But just jumping in like that does not showcase that. It just makes everyone's time a little worse.
EDIT: Nah, screw this. I'll stay out of topic. Won't reply on this again. I'll probably get called an attention whore again in a minute.
so
What's much more interesting: Do any of you like musical minimalism? I've been exploring it for some time now, and I think it is an alloy of emotions ready for mining; especially for the composers.
I didn't partake in the discussion before he showed up, did I? At least I don't recall doing it. I presented nothing of economics that he would criticize; even Symphony's help is misdirected. I attempted to act as nothing but an observer.
And, well, in an argument, Masada showing up saying "lol wrong" just doesn't sustain itself. I can look anything up, but even if I did, it was not Masada giving me a solution. It was Symphony. Masada's first post was pointless. Symphony D's following posts weren't. Yours weren't. Masada's second post weren't. Much of what you've said afterwards is plenty helpful. I still do stand by my original statement, to Masada's original post.
For I didn't think Masada's post was to Ron Paul specifically as the discussion didn't just touch upon him, it honestly just seemed like more more broad swoop at everyone in the discussion; that they were all unfit to discuss that topic and that they should feel bad. Again, that's most probably true. But just jumping in like that does not showcase that. It just makes everyone's time a little worse.
EDIT: Nah, screw this. I'll stay out of topic. Won't reply on this again. I'll probably get called an attention whore again in a minute.
so
What's much more interesting: Do any of you like musical minimalism? I've been exploring it for some time now, and I think it is an alloy of emotions ready for mining; especially for the composers.
Starlife
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No one ever asked Masada to teach anything; I believe Iggy simply said he could have had a different approach to discourse than the (some would say justified; others unjustified) asinine one he took.
Besides, having vast knowledge on a subject does not necessarily make you good at illuminating others. Given Masada's comments, it's questionable that he's even capable of teaching the subject in any memorable, meaningful, or useful way. So lj, others: instead of pressing him or blaming him or keeping this going, just be thankful you aren't the undergrads who have to put up with him every week.
That said, while I don't know much about economics, several posts above this one have extremely questionable views of education in the 21st century. But, I don't have the time to explain it, and I personally won't get anything out of it, so I'll just leave you with this.
Besides, having vast knowledge on a subject does not necessarily make you good at illuminating others. Given Masada's comments, it's questionable that he's even capable of teaching the subject in any memorable, meaningful, or useful way. So lj, others: instead of pressing him or blaming him or keeping this going, just be thankful you aren't the undergrads who have to put up with him every week.
That said, while I don't know much about economics, several posts above this one have extremely questionable views of education in the 21st century. But, I don't have the time to explain it, and I personally won't get anything out of it, so I'll just leave you with this.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
Yeah I did that for half a year and is considering quitting musicology to study it.
Do you like minimalism?
Link to video.
Do you like minimalism?
Link to video.
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Yes yes yes yes yes. Well, probably not that enthusiastically, but Minimalism seems to me to be one of the few paths out of the sinkhole that we call "atonality" that actually shows promise -- not just in writing good music (which I think is fairly easy), but in convincing the classical music elite that it is a worthwhile approach to music as well (which has always been the harder part of modern music and arguably all of modern art).
Did you have any composers in particular in mind?
Angst
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Didn't know that minimalism was under the atonality umbrella.
I don't endorse any particular composers. While I've known it for a while, yesterday I just browsed a number of artists and found, again, some interest for the genre.
I like Max Richter. (He can be considered minimalist, right?) because of the works I found - all maximum two minutes, really dense emotionally.
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