Who gets into the afterlife?

[Shadylookin]

Everyone, but it really just consists of being put in the ground and becoming wormfood

Oddly enough the poll misses the most prevalent belief. Everyone is in the afterlife, but only those that believe in X get to go to Y while everyone else goes to Z.

 

[_random_]

According to St. Basil, "The evils in hell do not have God as their cause, but ourselves." Assuming he's right (and he ususally is.) in the end, Heaven and Hell are descriptions for the same basic experience: the pure force of God's love. Clearly, for a believer, this would be a joyous experience, but as the embrace of a father is torturous for a son who hates his father, the love of God is torturous for those on earth who reject God, and if you're going to do that when you're alive, you're not going to change just because you're dead. But hypothetically, if somebody had no real oppurtunity to reject or accept God, they could go either way after dying. Just my two cents.

 

[scherbchen]

I, kind of, understood the words "god" and either "heaven" or "hell" there. not too sure about those, either....

 

[warpus]

Is it me who can best interpret God's judgment on who is good person and who is not?

Morality is always sketchy and vague on what is right and what is wrong. There isn't some graph to follow. You cannot squeeze human goodness and civility into a mold for you to follow. If we did that... well we would get organised religion and nobody wants that.

Ahh, so your answer to my question is God. That's all I was asking

 

[_random_]

I, kind of, understood the words "god" and either "heaven" or "hell" there. not too sure about those, either....

You must understand, they're very heavy cents.

 

[warpus]

According to St. Basil, "The evils in hell do not have God as their cause, but ourselves." Assuming he's right (and he ususally is.) in the end, Heaven and Hell are descriptions for the same basic experience: the pure force of God's love. Clearly, for a believer, this would be a joyous experience, but as the embrace of a father is torturous for a son who hates his father, the love of God is torturous for those on earth who reject God, and if you're going to do that when you're alive, you're not going to change just because you're dead. But hypothetically, if somebody had no real oppurtunity to reject or accept God, they could go either way after dying. Just my two cents.

If God embraced me you betcha I'd start believing that he exists You're making it sound like I'm rejecting some guy who's trying to hug me.

Trust me, if someone who knew everything, was all-powerful, and ALL-loving was hugging me, I would be the first one to acknowledge his existence. (in more ways than one)

 

[bathsheba666]

I'm of the "everyone's a winner!" persuasion.

So, no palestinians or gypsies there then ?

 

[Camikaze]

So, no Palestinians or Gypsies there then ?

Not quite what I meant.

 

[Tekee]

According to St. Basil, "The evils in hell do not have God as their cause, but ourselves." Assuming he's right (and he ususally is.) in the end, Heaven and Hell are descriptions for the same basic experience: the pure force of God's love. Clearly, for a believer, this would be a joyous experience, but as the embrace of a father is torturous for a son who hates his father, the love of God is torturous for those on earth who reject God, and if you're going to do that when you're alive, you're not going to change just because you're dead. But hypothetically, if somebody had no real oppurtunity to reject or accept God, they could go either way after dying. Just my two cents.

This x100! That is why they build Cathedrals to this man!

 

[Karalysia]

There is no afterlife, but I hope everyone burns in hell.

 

[Onionsoilder]

Curious that you excluded the most common Christian position (some believers make it in) from your poll

Which is?

This poll is utterly worthless, as it doesn't recognize that only those who die in battle will go their eternal reward.

That would fall under "Only the virtuous make it." Virtue is different for different people; dying honorably in battle can be virtuous.

Everyone, but it really just consists of being put in the ground and becoming wormfood

Oddly enough the poll misses the most prevalent belief. Everyone is in the afterlife, but only those that believe in X get to go to Y while everyone else goes to Z.

In terms of the poll, Y would be defined as the afterlife. Z is technically an afterlife, but not the ultimate heaven/nirvana/etc. Maybe I should have been more clear.

 

[warpus]

Which is?.

in the post you quoted

Curious that you excluded the most common Christian position (some believers make it in) from your poll

 

[PeteAtoms]

in the post you quoted

I think his poll options 2-5 represent "some," they are just more specific. "some" is too general.

 

[Shadylookin]

According to St. Basil, "The evils in hell do not have God as their cause, but ourselves." Assuming he's right (and he ususally is.) in the end, Heaven and Hell are descriptions for the same basic experience: the pure force of God's love. Clearly, for a believer, this would be a joyous experience, but as the embrace of a father is torturous for a son who hates his father, the love of God is torturous for those on earth who reject God, and if you're going to do that when you're alive, you're not going to change just because you're dead. But hypothetically, if somebody had no real oppurtunity to reject or accept God, they could go either way after dying. Just my two cents.

I've said a similar thing

I bet heaven and hell is the same place. All those churchy people that love to sing hymns, don't drink, dont smoke, don't swear, play bible games, and devote every second to annoying you with talk about how much they love jesus(the mormons essentially) are going to love it.

Then people like me that love to sin are going to be tortured with boredom

 

[Dachs]

The Elysia pedia are really more for heroes, but I shorthanded that to "virtuous". Most of you people would hang out in Asphodel I'll warrant

 

[warpus]

I think his poll options 2-5 represent "some," they are just more specific. "some" is too general.

According to a lot of Christian churches, only those who have accepted Christ can go to heaven.

The matter of who, out of all believers, ends up in heaven, and who ends up in hell, is entirely up to God - officially.

The option: "Some believers, but we don't know which" is not present on the poll, but it should be.

 

[classical_hero]

I voted that everyone goes to an afterlife, since hell is an afterlife experience, but I know that is not quite what he meant, but that is how I am interpreting the situation. The situation is simple, every name that is not found in the Lamb's book of life is sent to hell. Every person who trusts in Christ as their personal saviour.

Obviously the poll answers have no idea about what he is talking about when he is talking about what a believer is. It is most certainly not a person without sin, since every believe still sins, the only difference is that they are saved by grace and have the righteousness of God in him.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

Those get into the afterlife whom the democratic polling of video game playing internet posters has determined shall get into the afterlife.

 

[Mise]

I voted "only virtuous", because that's how I would prefer to interpret the Bible if I were Christian.

NOTE: I'm not Christian, but voted as if I was.

 

[onedreamer]

There is no afterlife or Valhalla (<- for your spelling pleasure).