Why have more people died in the name of Jesus than any person alive ???

[Cannae]

It seems kind of strange that more people have died in Jesus and Christianty than any ohter religon or person on Earth??? What I find odd aboght this is that the WHOLE teachings of is and Christianty is abought peace yet somehow it got translated into lanching people into Crusades.I just dose'nt make any sence to me could someone explane the logic behind this???

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Can you prove that more people have died in the name of Jesus? What about in the name of, say, Genghis Khan?

The answer, though, is that humans have a tendency to corrupt things - so some leaders ended up corrupting the original message, keeping only the name, and then used it as an excuse to do what they wanted.

 

[MobBoss]

The Crusades hardly register in terms of overall casualities. I would simply point out that far more people have died in the name of Mao, Stalin and/or Hitler than in the name of Jesus.

 

[puglover]

People like to take messages of peace and wield them toward their own gain. It's human nature. If you can't get used to Earth, pick up a change of address form.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Because Mohammed came 600 years later.

But seriously, people are always willing to die for things they do not understand. (some wise guy said this, don't remember who)
This applies to a lot more stuff than religions.

But directly on topic: i highly doubt that more ppl died in the name of Jesus than anyone else. But it is completley irelevant in who's name they died.

 

[IglooDame]

It seems kind of strange that more people have died in Jesus and Christianty than any ohter religon or person on Earth??? What I find odd aboght this is that the WHOLE teachings of is and Christianty is abought peace yet somehow it got translated into lanching people into Crusades.I just dose'nt make any sence to me could someone explane the logic behind this???

It's all in the marketing.

 

[Narz]

It's all in the marketing.

Yep.

People would rather die for something than live for it.

Consider it population control.

 

[Masquerouge]

It seems kind of strange that more people have died in Jesus and Christianty than any ohter religon or person on Earth??? What I find odd aboght this is that the WHOLE teachings of is and Christianty is abought peace yet somehow it got translated into lanching people into Crusades.I just dose'nt make any sence to me could someone explane the logic behind this???

As others have pointed out, your claim is dubious at best, and certainly worthless as is
As for the Crusades, one of the explanations is that the Catholic church was trying to avoid war on European soil (other attempts have included days of the week where fighting was prohibited, for instance), and make the temporal powers focus on something else than kicking their fellow Christians. Combine that with the reconquest of the Holy Land, and the bashing of infidels, and you have a winning combination.

The exercise can seem futile and hypocritical when you set it to today's standards, but remember we are talking about the Middle-Ages, where morality and religion were certainly different.

 

[Perfection]

The Crusades hardly register in terms of overall casualities. I would simply point out that far more people have died in the name of Mao, Stalin and/or Hitler than in the name of Jesus.

I dunno, Mao, Stalin, and Hitler were one-hit wonders, while Jesus remains a classic. His deaths tend to accumulate over the centuries rather than going out in short spectacular bursts. There's just so much stuff that was done in the name of Jesus, crusades, inquisitions, the whole reformation European infighting, the LRA, and those are just the top sellers. There's all sorts of nickle-and-dime homosexual killing, witch burning and abortion clinic bombings. That kind of stuff adds up!

 

[Sidhe]

Can we have some links to any of the wild generalisations made so far, just so we can get an idea for balance.

Did you know that more people have been killed by malaria than have eaten cheese and ham sandwiches?

Did you know that chalk is made up of millions of tiny organisms called bonafians, but they are imperceptable to anyone who isn't wearing a deerstalker hat and carrying a china bowl which is cracked into exactly pi number of pieces.

The square root of an indeterminate variable is exactly equal to the sum of the other two blueberry muffins?

 

[Cannae]

Can we have some links to any of the wild generalisations made so far, just so we can get an idea for balance.

Did you know that more people have been killed by malaria than have eaten cheese and ham sandwiches?

Did you know that chalk is made up of millions of tiny organisms called bonafians, but they are imperceptable to anyone who isn't wearing a deerstalker hat and carrying a china bowl which is cracked into exactly pi number of pieces.

The square root of an indeterminate variable is exactly equal to the sum of the other two blueberry muffins?

????what????

 

[Sidhe]

Ah sorry, I was just trying to show that saying Jesus has killed more people than any other man alive needs links, preferably a video of him running around a shopping mall gunning down pedestrians indiscriminately. Also saying Stalin killed more, would require you to prove it to be an effective counter to the original suposition, which frankly needs a decent link before it's credible anyway. Might find this easier if you said Christianity, taken literally, I'm pretty sure it makes no sense

You can claim all sorts of nonsense on a forum, the point is can you prove it?

 

[IglooDame]

I dunno, Mao, Stalin, and Hitler were one-hit wonders, while Jesus remains a classic. His deaths tend to accumulate over the centuries rather than going out in short spectacular bursts. There's just so much stuff that was done in the name of Jesus, crusades, inquisitions, the whole reformation European infighting, the LRA, and those are just the top sellers. There's all sorts of nickle-and-dime homosexual killing, witch burning and abortion clinic bombings. That kind of stuff adds up!

Well, Mao and Stalin (and for that matter Pol Pot) you might just add to Karl Marx' tally, in that case. And even so you still might have a few North Koreans, Chinese, or Cubans to throw in every now and again.

And Hitler should at least get partial credit lately for some of those homosexual killings, and whatever the neofascists are doing over in Europe.

 

[betazed]

Well, Mao and Stalin (and for that matter Pol Pot) you might just add to Karl Marx' tally, in that case. And even so you still might have a few North Koreans, Chinese, or Cubans to throw in every now and again.

And Hitler should at least get partial credit lately for some of those homosexual killings, and whatever the neofascists are doing over in Europe.

Also, if we are really keeping score we should also add - at least partially - the annihilation of entire races to it too. I mean Pizarro may have captured and killed a few Inca villages here and there fueled by his avarica but would he have been able to wipe out the lot of Incas without the priests egging on his soldiers in the name of evangelism?

 

[Kal'thzar]

I was just trying to show that saying Jesus has killed more people than any other man alive needs links

lets not get this incorrect, the OP was about those who killed in the NAME of jesus. your interpetation could lead this thread on a downword spiral of argueing.

Actually I think it will anyway but thats besides the point.

 

[Oruc]

Why have more people died in the name of Jesus than any person alive? I believe Karl marx would beat jesus, although Karl Marx isnt alive.

 

[Perfection]

Well, Mao and Stalin (and for that matter Pol Pot) you might just add to Karl Marx' tally, in that case. And even so you still might have a few North Koreans, Chinese, or Cubans to throw in every now and again.

I don't think they were really killing in his name, just killing for twisted versions of his ideologies.

 

[Maniacal]

Yep.

People would rather die for something than live for it.

Consider it population control.

Religion is more of a guidline than actual rules. Sides, if hell exists it's probably getting pretty full.

 

[Sidhe]

You're all wrong the biggest killers are disease carried by men/women easilly without any shadow of a doubt, although I will maintain this by providing a link.

http://indnet.org/demog/0028.html

To that list is added germs. Disea-ses brought by Europeans to the
Americans are estimated to have wi-ped out 95 per cent of the indigenous
inhabitants within 100 years. Eur-opean germs similarly decimated
po-pulations in the South Pacific and South Afric a.

But how did Europe acquire such devastating advantages?

"The major killers of humanity throughout our recent history -smallpox,
flu, tuberculosis, malaria, plague, measles, and cholera - are infectious
diseases that evolved from diseases of animals," notes Mr. Dia-mond.
"Because diseases have been the biggest killers of people, they have also
been decisive shapers of history." These germs were initially as
de-vastating to Eurasians built up immu-nities with prolonged exposure to
them. When Europeans then came into contact with non-immune indi-genous
populations - either hun-ter-gatherers or farmers whose inti-macy with
domestic ated animals was not as great - the toll was appalling.

I'm sure there are plenty of other links out there to support my notions, but since the level of evidence for Jesus and Hitler currently stands at someones opinion, I'm happy with this one

 

[Oruc]

I don't think they were really killing in his name, just killing for twisted versions of his ideologies.

wouldnt the same be true of Jesus?