Why is the Army losing so many talented midlevel officers?

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Why is the Army losing so many talented midlevel officers?

By Fred Kaplan
Posted Wednesday, Jan. 16, 2008, at 5:56 PM ET

The early retirement of a lieutenant colonel ordinarily wouldn't merit the slightest mention. But today's news that Lt. Col. John Nagl is leaving the Army is a big deal.

It's another sign, more alarming than most, that the U.S. military is losing its allure for a growing number of its most creative young officers. More than that, it's a sign that one of the Army's most farsighted reforms—a program that some senior officials regard as essential—may be on the verge of getting whacked.

Nagl, 41, has been one of the Army's most outspoken officers in recent years. (This is a huge point against him, careerwise; the brass look askance at officers, especially those without stars, who draw attention to themselves.) He played a substantial role in drafting the Army's recent field manual on counterinsurgency. His 2002 book, Learning To Eat Soup With a Knife, based on his doctoral dissertation at Oxford (another point against him in some circles), is widely hailed as a seminal book on CI warfare. (It was after reading the book that Gen. David Petraeus asked Nagl to join the panel that produced the field manual.) From 2003-2004, he served as the operations officer of a battalion in Iraq's Anbar province, where he tried to put his ideas into action (and, in the process, became the subject of a 9,200-word New York Times Magazine profile by Peter Maass, titled "Professor Nagl's War"). And since then, he's written thoughtful, if provocative, articles for Military Review and the "Small Wars Journal" Web site.

In short, Nagl was precisely the sort of officer whose cultivation and promotion has been encouraged by the likes of Gen. Petraeus and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates—a dedicated warfighter who also thinks strategically.

After his tour of duty in Iraq and a brief spell in the Pentagon, Nagl took over command of a battalion in Fort Riley, Kan. The battalion had once specialized in armored combat, but Nagl was sent there to give it a new mission—to train and advise foreign armies, like the Iraqi army.

This was, on paper, a vital mission. The long-term goal of U.S. policy in Iraq, after all, was, and still is, to transfer responsibilities for security to the Iraqis—to "stand down as they stand up." The Iraqis would need training and advice to step into this role. The trainers and the advisers would come from Nagl's battalion.

Secretary Gates has publicly endorsed this mission. In two speeches—in October before the Association of the United States Army and the following month at Kansas State University—Gates said:

[A]rguably the most important military component in the War on Terror is not the fighting we do ourselves but how well we enable and empower our partners to defend and govern their own countries.

Not only does this describe what Nagl has been doing; it recites, nearly verbatim, the first sentence of an essay that Nagl himself wrote in June for the Center for a New American Security, a Washington think tank, in which he argued that the Army should create a specialized advisory corps.

However, Nagl also wrote that soldiers have been posted to his battalion "on an ad hoc basis" and that few of the officers assigned to train them have ever been advisers or trainers themselves.

Some slow progress has subsequently been made on this front. But it's fair to say that the institutional Army has treated this battalion as something less than a high priority. It's also worth noting that Fort Riley is the home of the 1st Infantry Division—the "Big Red One"—and several generals with fond sentiments toward its legacy don't want its mission to veer away from direct combat.

Thomas Ricks, the Washington Post reporter who broke the story of Nagl's retirement, quotes Nagl as saying that he's leaving the Army because his family wants to settle down and because working at the Center for a New American Security will allow him to stay focused on the work that he loves. Nagl told me the same thing in a phone interview Wednesday afternoon and emphasized that, contrary to some rumors floating around, he is not leaving out of anger or disgruntlement.

Still, some officers who are sympathetic with Nagl's views say they find it discouraging that the Army can't find some way to hang on to a soldier of his caliber. For one reason or another, junior and midlevel officers—lieutenants, captains, and lieutenant colonels—are leaving the Army in droves.

West Point cadets are obligated to stay in the Army for five years after graduating. Typically, one-quarter to one-third of them decide not to sign on for a second term. In 2003, when the Class of 1998 faced that decision, just 18 percent of them quit the force; memories of Sept. 11 were still strong; the war in Iraq was underway; duty called. But in 2006, when the 905 officers from the Class of 2001 had to decide to stay or leave, 44 percent quit the Army—the service's highest loss rate in three decades.

The prolonged and repeated tours in Iraq were among the reasons for the trend. This is not the case for Nagl. But he represents another problem that the all-volunteer military is facing—the growing influence of the modern soldier's family. It's not that more soldiers have families than was once the case; in fact, the numbers are about the same as they were 30 years ago. But it is the case that more men in the military are married to professional women. In the past, many, if not most, officers married women who had grown up in military families. (Gen. Petraeus married the daughter of West Point's superintendent.) They knew what the gig was when they took it—the endless rotations, the life of never settling down in one place, of a career officer. Now, many officers' wives (or, in the case of female officers, their husbands) have their own careers; they don't want to spend years in Fort Riley, Kan., then a few years more in Fort Hood, Texas. And at some point in the trade-off between private and professional lives, the officer gives in to his or her spouse, takes a stable job, buys a house, and gets out of the service.

The Army is so desperate to retain good captains that it's offering $35,000 bonuses if they stay in the service for another term. For many officers, that's not enough; money isn't really the issue, and if it were, they could make much more on the outside. Can't the Army come up with another incentive to officers like John Nagl—maybe offer them the lure of a stable life?

44% attrition rate for officers ?
And someone that Gen Petraues hand picked leaving the military at this moment it is no wonder that the commanders are saying the army is being over stretched.

One curious note here is that Thomas Rick broke this story hes the authur of "FIASCO" iam suprise or perhapes not that much suprised given hes connections within the military.

EDIT:
http://www.slate.com/id/2182263/pagenum/2
 
Lieutenant Colonels leaving is baaaad...
 
44% attrition rate for officers ?

No, 44% for that particular class.

And someone that Gen Petraues hand picked leaving the military at this moment it is no wonder that the commanders are saying the army is being over stretched.

Attrition rates go up in times of conflict. We have only been saying this for what...4+ years now?

One curious note here is that Thomas Rick broke this story hes the authur of "FIASCO" iam suprise or perhapes not that much suprised given hes connections within the military

:rotfl: Stil riding that fiasco donkey eh?

Plus, does anyone but me find it rather odd to talk so much about LTC Nagl leaving the army....and then simply not ask him 'why' he was leaving personally? Without a personal answer from LTC Nagl on the matter, it would appear to me the article is mere speculation on his part.
 
Midlevel officers have a habit of retiring. It's called doing your 20 years and getting your retirement plan.
 
High-Profile Officer Nagl to Leave Army, Join Think Tank




By Thomas E. Ricks <----- you know who that wrote the you know what
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 16, 2008; Page A05


One of the Army's most prominent younger officers, whose writings have influenced the conduct of the U.S. troop buildup in Iraq, said he has decided to leave the service to study strategic issues full time at a new Washington think tank.

Lt. Col. John Nagl, 41, is a co-author of the Army's new manual on counterinsurgency operations, which has been used heavily by U.S. forces carrying out the strategy of moving off big bases, living among the population and making the protection of civilians their top priority.

A Rhodes scholar, Nagl first achieved prominence for his Oxford University doctoral dissertation, which was published in 2002 as a book titled "Learning to Eat Soup With a Knife: Counterinsurgency Lessons From Malaya and Vietnam." The introduction to a recent edition of the book was written by Gen. Peter Schoomaker, at the time the Army's chief of staff.

Nagl led a tank platoon in the 1991 Persian Gulf war and served in Iraq in 2003 and 2004 as the operations officer for an Army battalion in Iraq's Anbar province. "I thought I understood something about counterinsurgency," Nagl told the New York Times Magazine in January 2004, "until I started doing it."

After serving in Iraq, he became an assistant to then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul D. Wolfowitz. Next, under the stewardship of Gen. David H. Petraeus, now the top U.S. commander in Iraq, he helped produce the Army's counterinsurgency manual. He then became the commander of a battalion in Fort Riley, Kan., that teaches U.S. soldiers how to train and advise Iraqi forces. He has continued to have a high profile, with interviews on National Public Radio, "The Charlie Rose Show" and "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart."

Nagl said in a brief telephone interview yesterday that he has filed his papers requesting retirement. "I love the Army very much," he said, but he added that he decided to leave after discussing his future with his family. "It's not the strain of repeated deployments," he said, but "a belief that I can contribute perhaps on a different level -- and my family wants me to leave."

He said he plans to become a fellow at the Center for a New American Security, a centrist think tank recently founded by Kurt Campbell and Mich¿le Flournoy, Clinton-era Pentagon officials. Nagl said he looks forward to working with them. "I hope to focus on national security for the remainder of my days," he said. "Obviously you don't have to do that in uniform."

Nagl's departure is a serious loss for the Army, said retired Marine Col. T.X. Hammes. "He's a serious student of warfare, he's smart, he's articulate, he's successfully led troops in combat, and he's worked at the highest levels of the Pentagon," said Hammes, himself the author of a book on contemporary war. "The Army just doesn't have that many officers with his set of qualifications."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/15/AR2008011503359.html?nav=hcmodule

Heres the orginal article by "you know who that cant be mentioned" :D
As it was pointed out certain light is revealled on internal military "soap opera" matters arent really repoerted in the press.
I also like the fact he went on the Daily show.

EDIT: At least you cant deny the man has connections especially if he has sufficent reputation within the armed forces to continue reporting about the armed forces as he has done so
 
Midlevel officers have a habit of retiring. It's called doing your 20 years and getting your retirement plan.
Talk about a short retirement plan in comparison with civilian jobs.
 
Not only is it short, it is a great retirement plan. You get to transfer your life insurance to a low-cost civilian version for military people, and you collect 1/2 your paycheck for the rest of your life. And you get access to some military services. If you do 30 years, you get 3/4 of your paycheck, for the rest of your life.

(Perhaps MB can double-check those numbers for me)

Really, it's tough to beat. I can't blame people for taking it asap, and enjoying the rest of their life (starting at age ~38, for enlisted) retired. Most get some easy part-time work as a top-security guy for walmart, or some other company. Some work full-time jobs and get rich.
 
Maybe you should ask a midlevel officer? ;)

(Perhaps MB can double-check those numbers for me)

That is correct, with some minor alterations based on a thousand different things that are for our purposes here anecdotal.

Commisary and Exchange rights forever, SCORE!
 
Not only is it short, it is a great retirement plan.
However, I don't like retiring early. I guess that comes with being very industrious and wanting to work.

Really, it's tough to beat.
You're talking to a person who has a goal set in mind for the business realm :crazyeye:. However, I am not fit anyway to go into the military anyway. IIRC, their fitness testing is way more challenging (I have seen the various numbers from the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard) than the fitness testing for when I had to go for my first degree black belt :x
 
Just because you retire from the military does not mean you have to stop working. You retire early enough to start a second career. You can use all that valuable military experience and the extra paychecks (and services, and connections) to soar to new heights of hard work.

Regarding a favoring of "the business realm"... there are plenty of careers in the military that parallel the 'business world'. You know, the army does have to buy stuff, and make stuff, and they even sell stuff. There are way more office jobs in the military than "military" ones.

I wasn't necessarily suggesting it for you. Just pointing out how awesome the retirement plan is, so that people might see another reason (besides "Oh, the war is s0 terrible!") why so many retire. Of course, having one's life at stake certainly sways some to take the retirement who might not have in peace time... Is anyone surprised?? Do you really expect retirement rates not to go up during war time?

Just keep in mind...

These people are not "quitting". They are retiring with a very nice retirement package. Actually, I'm surprised the army manages to keep anyone after 20 years, or especially 30... but hey, career soldiers are a special breed of folks, and I mean that in a good way :P
 
However, I don't like retiring early. I guess that comes with being very industrious and wanting to work.

Well they don't stop working after 20 years, they just move to a stable civilian job. So now you have 2 pay checks coming in.

One of my gunny's got out after 20 years to become a real estate agent.
 
20th century (1st half): we do not want black people in our military!
21st century: we do not want gay people in our military!

this extremely simplified timeline would suggest that the US military is a rather, how shall we put it.... conservative institution. as all militaries are. The question is a) can the US afford these "luxuries" given the continued loss of life and b) why can't a black gay guy/gal fight for liberty and justice and yadda yadda just as much as a straight white guy from arkansas?

Not pinning this on the US alone, this is pretty much universal. it baffles me...
 
It's a matter of unit cohesion (bottom-up preferences), not top-down prejudice.

(Pun not intended)

If a group of men is going into combat with high expected casualty rates (sacrificing their lives for their country) and they don't want openly gay men with them... who the hell are you to tell them otherwise. Save your political correctness for the Ivory Tower, it has no place on a battlefield.

As far as I'm concerned, warrior gets what warrior wants and PC be damned.
 
Heres the orginal article by "you know who that cant be mentioned" :D

Oh, I dont mind you mentioning Ricks.....I just think its silly as hell that you feel obligated to mention "Fiasco" every time something about him comes up as if the name of the book were tatooed on his ass....

As it was pointed out certain light is revealled on internal military "soap opera" matters arent really repoerted in the press.
I also like the fact he went on the Daily show.

EDIT: At least you cant deny the man has connections especially if he has sufficent reputation within the armed forces to continue reporting about the armed forces as he has done so

And all this has to do what exactly about an utter absence of any personal quote from LTC Nagl?
 
Not only is it short, it is a great retirement plan. You get to transfer your life insurance to a low-cost civilian version for military people, and you collect 1/2 your paycheck for the rest of your life. And you get access to some military services. If you do 30 years, you get 3/4 of your paycheck, for the rest of your life.

(Perhaps MB can double-check those numbers for me)

Really, it's tough to beat. I can't blame people for taking it asap, and enjoying the rest of their life (starting at age ~38, for enlisted) retired. Most get some easy part-time work as a top-security guy for walmart, or some other company. Some work full-time jobs and get rich.

At 20 years its 50% of your base pay, not half yourpaycheck - slight difference there. And then you get an additional 2.5% to that for every year you serve past 20. Myself, I am planning on serving at least 24 years and getting that 60% before I leave and look for another job. I should be able to score something about the same level of pay afterwards and have my retirement pay as cushion for beer money and such.

And the rank of LTC is about the average retirement rank of most officers that go the distance. The ones that plan on staying significantly after that are the ones trying to break through the glass ceiling to full bird Colonel.
 
Not only is it short, it is a great retirement plan. You get to transfer your life insurance to a low-cost civilian version for military people, and you collect 1/2 your paycheck for the rest of your life. And you get access to some military services. If you do 30 years, you get 3/4 of your paycheck, for the rest of your life.

(Perhaps MB can double-check those numbers for me)

Really, it's tough to beat. I can't blame people for taking it asap, and enjoying the rest of their life (starting at age ~38, for enlisted) retired. Most get some easy part-time work as a top-security guy for walmart, or some other company. Some work full-time jobs and get rich.

Weird that, in turn, so many of these same people are against the so-called "welfare state" or "big government" when they suck so very hard on that same teet. Mind you, I don't begrudge them that. I just find it funny, ironic, and unfortunate that so often people who live so highly on the govt. hog in turn want to deny the same to others. And, no, I'm not just talking about easy targets like so-called "welfare mothers."
 
Yeah, I bet if true fiscal conservativism existed, the military beaurocracy would have to be one of the ones to go, too.
 
Weird that, in turn, so many of these same people are against the so-called "welfare state" or "big government" when they suck so very hard on that same teet. Mind you, I don't begrudge them that. I just find it funny, ironic, and unfortunate that so often people who live so highly on the govt. hog in turn want to deny the same to others. And, no, I'm not just talking about easy targets like so-called "welfare mothers."

It's not welfare, it's a well-deserved retirement package. They earned it. You don't see a difference?

I suppose you think all of the private retired people are on corporate welfare? What about cops, firemen, teachers, and the like.... retirement = welfare? WTH
 
It's not welfare, it's a well-deserved retirement package. They earned it. You don't see a difference?

Veteran hospitals arn't welfare?
 
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