World Wonder Elimination Thread

[Macedong]

Sorry about cutting out a wonder earlier. Not sure what happened. Select all, copy, paste, but somehow cut out a line.

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 14
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 22 (21+1): Best wonder available for culture victories and Australia
Forbidden City – 31
Great Lighthouse - 7
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14 (17-3): you can have double ships already built way before this wonder with the +100% card. In a water-heavy map, I can often build 4 quads and 2 galleys in earlier eras, which is all you need to dominate the seas

 

[TomKQT]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 14
Casa de Contratación - 22
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 19 (22-3): I build this wonder only when I really have nothing better to do. What would I need the appeal for, anyway?
Forbidden City – 32 (31+1): I like all wonders that add a policy slot and this particular wonder adds the most versatile one.
Great Lighthouse - 7
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[eleven11]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 21
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11 (14-3) I really feel that these mid/late game culture oriented wonders need some love.
Casa de Contratación - 23 (22+1) - It's not an every game wonder... but with the right continental conditions this wonder is ridiculous. You'll also be running the Colonial Taxes policy in games where you want to build this for a whopping 40% gold and 25% production bonus to all cities not on home continent. It's not just for England or Spain. It works on Pangaea continental divides. If you play wide as I do, that could be 10+ cities with this bonus. The governor promotions and Great Merchant points, plus the fact that it comes much earlier, can give Big Ben a run for the money (literally). And it can also kick out a ton more production empire wide than Ruhr can do in one city.
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 19
Forbidden City – 32
Great Lighthouse - 7
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 13
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[BenitoChavez]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 18 = 21 - 3. Between city states being conquered and the rest getting flooded by AI envoys, I'm not sure this wonder is up to par with the rest on the list.
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 19
Forbidden City – 32
Great Lighthouse - 7
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14 = 13 + 1. Situational yes, but it makes for a very strong city if you can get it.
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[Zdarg]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29 - 3 = 26 I've built Stonehenge at least thrice in Civ6, but was beaten by AI every time when trying to build Colosseum. Perhaps because I can't force myself to build that stupid (especially in R&F) entertainment complex until is's too late. If the wonder had better pre-requisite...
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 19
Forbidden City – 32
Great Lighthouse - 7
Great Zimbabwe - 22
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14 + 1 = 15 That "4 quads and 2 galleys" definitely isn't enough to free/conquer two cities simultaneously in later game. And you probably can't build 20+ ships with 100% card without going bankrupt.

 

[Lily_Lancer]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat – 11
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 20=19+1 I see no reason Eiffel Tower being worse than Zimbabwe
Forbidden City – 32
Great Lighthouse - 7
Great Zimbabwe - 19=22-3 I see no reason Zimbabwe being better than Eiffel Tower.
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14.
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 8 (11 - 3) All of the remaining wonders, and some of those already eliminated (I'm looking at you, poor maligned Great Library) have at least some situations in which they can speed you along towards victory. Adding an extra population to every city without extra amenities is something you can only afford to do once victory is already assured.
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 20
Forbidden City – 32
Great Lighthouse - 8 (7 + 1) If you're really interested in winning the game through your navy, you want this one, not the Venetian Arsenal, available much earlier for less than a third of the cost.
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[Mr. Shadows]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 8
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21 (20+1=21) Those who don't value the Eiffel Tower must not care about CVs because this is the wonder that lets you make resorts.
Forbidden City – 29 (31-3=29) This isn't a power house like the Pyramids, Coliseum or Eiffel Tower. It's nice to have but I frequently feel that the hammers could be better spent on something else.
Great Lighthouse - 8
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 21
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[Softly]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 8
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 29
Great Lighthouse - 5 (8-3) Not bad in theory but the AI never builds enough of a navy for this to be worth it.
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22 (21+1): Used to hate this wonder, as you would often get beat and requires you to use up a hill tile. However, with R&F I often find myself building a faith infrastructure in the early game for the monumentality dedication and this gives me an outlet for that faith infrastructure in the late game. That plus the Pingala Gov promotion makes this wonder great to have in R&F.
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 18
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[Leathaface]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 8
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 29
Great Lighthouse - 2 (5 - 3) I never build it, even on Island Plates maps.
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 22
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 19 (18 + 1) Very good for Scientific victories.
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[liv]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 8
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 30 (+1) When it is available I seem to really be in need of more policy spots,
Great Lighthouse - 2
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 19 (-3) Don't really do the tech and not enough lakes to make this worthwhile.
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 19
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army -20
Venetian Arsenal – 14

 

[Kimiimaro]

Forbidden City's score is wrong. It should be 29 instead of 30. Mr. Shadows typed wrong score after downvote (31-3=28, not 29).

Edit: I was wrong XD Well, it's been fixed some posts under.

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 8
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 29+1=30 - But I'll make it 30 anyways. Bonus policy slot is always great. And this offers the best of the policy slots - the wildcard policy slod.
Great Lighthouse - 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - I'll finish its suffering. Its bonuses are rather insignificant.
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 19
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 19
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 20
Venetian Arsenal - 14 - Isn't this also able to build double Fleets and Armadas?

 

[liv]

It should be 30 before your vote for the Forbidden City. Shadows original answer was correct but he typed in the wrong thing in his math.
So the Forbidden Cityshould be 31 now.

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 8
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23 + 1 = 24 (Simply great - top 3 bonus that unlocks all kinds of strategies. It's tough to get though)
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 13
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 29
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 19 - 3 = 16 (How the heck is this still at 19? Pretty poor wonder with very specific terrain requirements. It's definitely not better than the lighthouse)
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 19
St. Basil's Cathedral - 22
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 20
Venetian Arsenal - 14

 

[liv]

Forbidden City should be 31

 

[Stomper66]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 8
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 10 (13-3) One trader, 3 gold and 1 admiral point? Really? Thats the same bonus that a harbour provides oh wait a harbour is better.
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31 Moderator Action: Fixed per posts above -- Browd
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 19
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 19
St. Basil's Cathedral - 23 (22+1) This wonder is like a Petra for Russia but will also boost your culture game with the relic slots and tourism bonus.
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 20
Venetian Arsenal - 14

 

[Zyxpsilon]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 5 (8-3) Empire-wide Housing Needs have plenty of similar acquisition means for much more affordable "purchasing" patterns. Except you *could be* distributing that cost optimally rather than globally in a swift but still blind turn.
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 10
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 19
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 19
St. Basil's Cathedral - 23
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 20
Venetian Arsenal - 15 (14+1) Same reasoning as before.. a FREE Frigate (which leads to Battleship_S anyway) on every build cycle is the Renaissance trigger for Naval domination & coastal raids -- specially on Archipelago. Don't let Gitarja get it, etc.

 

[liv]

Huey Teocalli should be 16

 

[kingofsealand]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor wat - 5
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 29
Colossus – 10
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 16 + 1 = 17: I think this wonder has more potential than ever, especially with lake UI like Netherlands. Doesn't this synergize with Auckland also? Maybe in a small map you won't have the lakes to be worthwhile, But I almost always play on large and have rarely felt this wonder was a waste.
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 19-3 = 16 : I think Reyna buying a spaceport really threw off the value here. Yea you can put it towards spaceship parts but then again if you just bought the spaceport as quick as possible you could put that production into the parts and skip the wonder. I've never found this to be the key to winning a game, if I can build this I was going to win anyway.
St. Basil's Cathedral - 23
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 20
Venetian arsenal - 15

 

[The Highwayman]

Alhambra - 23
Angkor Wat - 5
Apadana - 18
Big Ben - 23
Bolshoi Theatre - 11
Casa de Contratación - 23
Colosseum - 30 (29+1) Easy to get, regional effects can easily touch 6-7 cities. Comes early enough to provide impact.
Colossus – 10
Cristo Redentor - 21
Eiffel Tower - 21
Forbidden City – 31
Great Zimbabwe - 19
Hagia Sophia - 17
Huey Teocalli - 14 (17-3) Some of you guys read my mind. Buff the lake tiles I don't have? Beeline a useless tech to be snuffed out by the AI anyways? I'll be back tomorrow to either finish this off or help put the Mausoleum of Halitosis in its place, because that's currently overrated, especially if the Colosseum and Forbidden City can get marked down for any reason.
Jebel Barkal - 11
Kilwa Kisiwani - 23
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus - 27
Oracle - 22
Oxford University - 22
Petra - 14
Potala Palace - 21
Pyramids - 29
Ruhr Valley - 16
St. Basil's Cathedral - 23
Temple of Artemis - 27
Terracotta Army - 20
Venetian Arsenal - 15