Wu Tang to Sell Only One Copy of its New Album

So Wu Tang sold Once Upon a Time in Shaolin to Martin Shkreli for two million dollars. Shrekli is the same League of Legends jerkoff who raised the price of Daraprim 5,500%.

I don't understand why this guy has some supporters on this forum. Even if what he was doing in pharma wasn't completely evil, he's still a giant douchebag and walking PR disaster, and he's continuing to perform those roles very well. The only reason to like him is to be contrarian or a Randroid.
 
Just hold on to that feeling for twenty years for when he runs for president.
 
I don't understand why this guy has some supporters on this forum. Even if what he was doing in pharma wasn't completely evil, he's still a giant douchebag and walking PR disaster, and he's continuing to perform those roles very well. The only reason to like him is to be contrarian or a Randroid.

I support anything that will encourage governments to institute sensible patent laws and encourage supply of low-cost generic options.
 
I support anything that will encourage governments to institute sensible patent laws and encourage supply of low-cost generic options.

For music there is no shortage of low cost generic options. Support local bands. Invite musicians to parties and encourage them to play. Attend local festivals.

The mindset of "but on a recording every note is perfect because they lay the track down a hundred times and then splice together the best takes" is the death of music, and the buyers are the responsible party.
 
Wu Tang Clan most probably made more money off this one album than they did off their previous album.

Maybe. Their original albums sold 2 million copies, so those should've made more than this one.
 
For music there is no shortage of low cost generic options. Support local bands. Invite musicians to parties and encourage them to play. Attend local festivals.

The mindset of "but on a recording every note is perfect because they lay the track down a hundred times and then splice together the best takes" is the death of music, and the buyers are the responsible party.

I thought I was talking about Martin Shkreli.

I'd like to see media copyright severely curtailed too, and I doubt that would hurt local bands.
 
I have a friend who invited B.A. Johnston to play in his backyard, or hired him to rather I suppose. (video from a different show, but you get the idea. He also plays the keyboard and guitar, depending on the song)

Spoiler :
The guy showed up, set up his equipment, and put on a hell of a show. My friend charged entry ($15 maybe?) and used that to pay the artist and supply everyone with booze and snacks. It was kind of awesome.

The funniest part was that his backyard is right beside a highschool, and on the other side of the house and street is the Police HQ. Like.. right there. The music was pretty loud and I didn't see any cops so I guess either our cops are cool or they didn't care enough or.. I suppose maybe my friend talked to them beforehand, but I sort of doubt it.

Anyway, support your local artists. (B.A. Johnston lives in Hamilton, it's about 1hour away from here. That's local enough)
 
I support anything that will encourage governments to institute sensible patent laws and encourage supply of low-cost generic options.

The question is will it encourage governments to institute sensible patent laws? Some might say the laws are working by design in this case.

Anyway, Martin Shkreli has been arrested.

Are we still supposed to hate the game and not the player (the same argument for not punishing irresponsible bankers)?
 
What's that, world? The guy who spent the whole year proving he will go to any length for money...was willing to go any length for money?

This is surprising, in the same sense that a baseball player who is not a pitcher in the American League trying to hit a ball with a stick is surprising.
 
The question is will it encourage governments to institute sensible patent laws? Some might say the laws are working by design in this case.

Anyway, Martin Shkreli has been arrested.

Are we still supposed to hate the game and not the player (the same argument for not punishing irresponsible bankers)?

This is what happens when you aren't raised in Shaolin. Just ain't got that hustle. Perfect opportunity for the legal Wu-Tang Bill Murray collaboration heist


It's a Wu Tang Clan thread. NFSW is a given when you enter the 36 Chambers

Link to video.
 
If I made this album it would be 74 minutes of "WU TANG CLAN AIN'T NOTHING TO F* WITH"
 
I'd be interested in the legality of that "allowed theft" clause. Surely the law of the land has to trump any contract between individuals? Theft is still theft no matter what you've signed.
 
I'd be interested in the legality of that "allowed theft" clause. Surely the law of the land has to trump any contract between individuals? Theft is still theft no matter what you've signed.

It is, unfortunately, a hoax. Not a lawyer but I imagine if they could get it back without breaking any other laws (which would be next to impossible) it could be seen as a transfer of ownership under the terms of the contract.
 
Well now's their chance to nab it.
 
The question is will it encourage governments to institute sensible patent laws? Some might say the laws are working by design in this case.

Anyway, Martin Shkreli has been arrested.

Are we still supposed to hate the game and not the player (the same argument for not punishing irresponsible bankers)?

It is some pretty ugly reading.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/business/shkreli-fraud-charges.html?_r=0

It has been a busy week for Martin Shkreli, the flamboyant businessman at the center of the drug industry’s price-gouging scandals.

He said he would sharply increase the cost of a drug used to treat a potentially deadly parasitic infection. He called himself “the world’s most eligible bachelor” on Twitter and railed against critics in a live-streaming YouTube video. After reportedly paying $2 million for a rare Wu-Tang Clan album, he goaded a member of the hip-hop group to “show me some respect.”

Then, at 6 a.m. Thursday, F.B.I. agents arrested Mr. Shkreli, 32, at his Murray Hill apartment. He was arraigned in Federal District Court in Brooklyn on securities fraud and wire fraud charges.

And what exactly did he allegedly do to get arrested? :coffee:

Eventually, Mr. Shkreli opened his own hedge fund — Elea Capital. It didn’t last long, collapsing in 2007 on a big bet he made that went against him. Undeterred, in 2009, he started his second hedge fund, MSMB Capital, the initials of Mr. Shkreli and his partner, Marek Biestek, whom he met while attending Baruch College.

Like Elea, MSMB’s performance wasn’t nearly as hot as Mr. Shkreli let on. From 2009 through 2012, Mr. Shkreli lost millions of dollars trading in the market, according to the accusations contained in the indictment. But he hid those losses, telling investors instead that the funds had strong double-digit returns.

In 2011, Mr. Shkreli started Retrophin, which quickly adopted a controversial business strategy, acquiring old, neglected drugs used for rare diseases and quickly raising their prices.

Soon, however, Mr. Shkreli was making a plan to use Retrophin assets to pay off MSMB investors. When seven MSMB investors threatened to sue in 2013, Mr. Shkreli and Evan Greebel, the lead outside counsel for Retrophin, used $3.4 million in Retrophin funds and stock to settle the investors’ claims, even though Retrophin had no responsibility, the indictment says.

So he and his company lawyer used Retrophin money to pay off angry MSMB customers after he lost their money on the stock market. :crazyeye:

He founded both companies, so it should be ok right?

Later, when Retrophin’s auditor raised questions about the settlements, Mr. Shkreli and Mr. Greebel created fraudulent consulting agreements for the investors, thinking they could pay the money back without upsetting the auditor, the indictment states. From September 2013 to March 2014, they created fake consulting agreements for four investors, paying $7.6 million in cash and stock. Retrophin’s board did not approve of the consulting agreements, the indictment says.

Hurk, Retrophin has a board of directors who didn't know about any of this!

"Consultants (and furious customers who are suing me), my drug company will pay you $7.6 for your opinion on staplers.
I totally have sole authority to make such an offer." :deal:


https://reason.com/blog/2015/09/25/drug-price-gouging
Shkreli devised a plan to exploit the situation. First, he apparently talked Impax into starving the wholesale market of the drug, so that when Turing completed its purchase of the rights there were no extra pills floating around. Next, he set up an exclusive distribution network as a way of preventing potential competitors from obtaining enough Daraprim to conduct those trials for the FDA. With potential competitors blocked, his monopoly did what monopolies do: set its prices to maximize profits.

Following a fierce backlash—Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton declared that "Price gouging like this in the specialty drug market is outrageous"—Shkreli has backed down, saying that Turing will lower the price of Daraprim. But he still plans to hang on to his monopoly.
This guy really knows how to game the system.
I wonder if the FBI can make the charges stick, and if he will see any jail time if he's guilty?
The Obama administration bends over backwards to avoid jailing bankers, and this guy acts like a banker.
 
Man you gotta be straight dumb to lose money on the stock market trading between 2009 and 2012.
 
Spoiler :
It is some pretty ugly reading.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/business/shkreli-fraud-charges.html?_r=0



And what exactly did he allegedly do to get arrested? :coffee:



So he and his company lawyer used Retrophin money to pay off angry MSMB customers after he lost their money on the stock market. :crazyeye:

He founded both companies, so it should be ok right?



Hurk, Retrophin has a board of directors who didn't know about any of this!

"Consultants (and furious customers who are suing me), my drug company will pay you $7.6 for your opinion on staplers.
I totally have sole authority to make such an offer." :deal:


https://reason.com/blog/2015/09/25/drug-price-gouging

This guy really knows how to game the system.
I wonder if the FBI can make the charges stick, and if he will see any jail time if he's guilty?
The Obama administration bends over backwards to avoid jailing bankers, and this guy acts like a banker.

Basically this guy gt what he deserved. He lost money on the market and he used the Pharmaceutical company to try and cover his losses. Karma is a female dog.
 
I thought Wu Tang was supposed to be for the children? :(

What is the point of being a musical artist when almost no one is gonna hear your joints?
 
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