2020 US Election (Part One)

[Lexicus]

You're right. I should have said "under-educated," e.g. He's never read the Constitution, he doesn't know how tariffs work, he doesn't know who we're fighting against and fighting for in Afghanistan, he doesn't know how NATO is funded, he doesn't understand science...

Willfully ignorant would do just fine.

 

[Sommerswerd]

You're right. I should have said "under-educated," e.g. He's never read the Constitution, he doesn't know how tariffs work, he doesn't know who we're fighting against and fighting for in Afghanistan, he doesn't know how NATO is funded, he doesn't understand science...

"Uninformed" or "ignorant" is probably what you're looking for.

 

[Broken_Erika]

He doesn't know and he doesn't care. But he's an expert! No one know it better than he does!

 

[Takhisis]

I think that ‘unconcerned’ is the best descriptor. He's not an illiterate person who's trying to make ends meet in a slum somewhere and cannot be bothered to be politically savvy. He is the actual person in charge of the executive branch, he himself and no other, and has access to some of the best intelligence and information gathering services in the world. He just can't be bothered to, and yes, he does know what's at stake. It's just that he's not on the side of the country he represents.

‘Flippant’ also applies. It is a matter of personality rather than intellectual capacity.

 

[Lexicus]

Yo @Sommerswerd here is an interesting piece on Tulsi's supporters:

a young man laughed with his friends while clutching a ukulele and sporting a white hat with a familiar slogan: “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.”

The guy in the MAGA hat, who asked that I call him “Sam,” told me he was unlikely to vote for any Democrat in 2020, but that he’d come out with a friend who was “obsessed” with Gabbard. I mentioned that I was surprised to find a MAGA hat at a Democratic debate party, and a middle-aged man from Long Island laughed at the sentiment. “I think you’ll find a lot of invisible MAGA hats here,” he said, adding that he was a Trump supporter as well.

Attendees were hesitant to speak with me, but they didn’t seem like paranoid conspiracists—just garden-variety nationalists. Almost everyone I talked to who had come for the watch party described themselves as either a current or a disaffected Trump supporter, and over the course of the night I encountered about as many “invisible MAGA hats” as I did plastic leis. An attendee and self-proclaimed Trump supporter named Kyrie tried to distill Gabbard’s appeal: “She has the most common sense out of most of [the Democrats].”

Kyrie couldn’t give a clear answer when I asked what he meant by “common sense,” but his friend Chris Ewald, one of the event’s organizers, took a stab. “She’s the strongest anti-war candidate on display,” he said, a “TULSI 2020” shirt leering from behind the lapel of a loose-fitting blazer. “She’s the most vocal candidate speaking against interventionist wars.”

 

[Berzerker]

Both left and right have anti-war people, thats her main appeal to both sides and thats also why Clinton didn't squash Trump. If Trump doesn't make headway he's gonna lose them to the Democrats, assuming of course they dont nominate another warmonger. We thought Obama would get us out of that rut, Trump's not doing much better but he has avoided started even more wars so far.

Killing people is big business

 

[rah]

If the election becomes a one issue election, I doubt real highly that this will be the defining issue. I believe you put way way too much weight on it.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Yo @Sommerswerd here is an interesting piece on Tulsi's supporters:

Sure... and as you were already aware... often when they say, "she has the most common sense" what they really mean by "common sense" = hotness/attractiveness.

 

[Berzerker]

She is hot, but she has an appealing personality too... and a veteran.

If the election becomes a one issue election, I doubt real highly that this will be the defining issue. I believe you put way way too much weight on it.

If the Dems nominate Biden they'll be handing Trump the anti-war vote again, assuming he doesn't invade Iran. I think it would still be a toss up but the Dems should be able to walk away with it in 2020.

 

[rah]

Again, I think you overestimate that they will hold him responsible for that and that the anti-war vote is that large.

 

[Lexicus]

So, apparently Sanders made some mild comments about the editorial line of the Washington Post and the rest of the mainstream media are treating this as identical to Trump's comments about the media

Were liberal moderates always this stupid???

 

[rah]

Stupidity is not in short supply these days.

 

[Socrates99]

So, apparently Sanders made some mild comments about the editorial line of the Washington Post and the rest of the mainstream media are treating this as identical to Trump's comments about the media

Were liberal moderates always this stupid???

A lot of brains just straight up broke in November 2016.

 

[Berzerker]

So, apparently Sanders made some mild comments about the editorial line of the Washington Post and the rest of the mainstream media are treating this as identical to Trump's comments about the media

Were liberal moderates always this stupid???

They're just not progressive and Sanders aint invited to the party, but it is refreshing when people on the left call out the MSM for bias.

 

[Lexicus]

but it is refreshing when people on the left call out the MSM for bias

WTH? People on the left have been nonstop pointing out media bias at least since Engels pointed out that in a bourgeois democracy the owners of the media will be pretty much entirely drawn from the bourgeois class.

 

[rah]

So do you think overall (in general) the media leans right or left?

 

[Lexicus]

So do you think overall (in general) the media leans right or left?

In general, the media leans right insofar as it tends to support the status quo.

 

[El_Machinae]

In general, the media leans right insofar as it tends to support the status quo.

Not only that, but they will have massive implicit reasons to support a rent-seeking end game for its owners

 

[Berzerker]

WTH? People on the left have been nonstop pointing out media bias at least since Engels pointed out that in a bourgeois democracy the owners of the media will be pretty much entirely drawn from the bourgeois class.

I know people on the left accuse the media of bias, I'm a Jimmy Dore fan. But that was the first time I saw Bernie accuse the WaPo of bias and around here 'the left' mocks people who accuse the media of bias. Not everyone of course, but I dont see Bernie and the Jets care about media bias when its trashing Trump. They climb right aboard the Hate Trump train or wave as it goes by.

 

[Berzerker]

Today's a good reminder. We could've have had a freaking foreign policy expert as President. Would've been nice!

Lily Adams, Kamala Harris' communications director on Twitter

I think Hillary has a friend in Kamala Harris

The comments section let her have it:

Hillary Clinton:

Voted for the Iraq War

Said she'd 'totally obliterate' Iran

Turned Libya into a safe haven for slave selling jihadists

Armed terrorists in Syria

Sold billions in weapons to Saudi Arabia

"Foreign policy expert"? More like warmongering mass murderer

Sarah Abdallah

from a Jimmy Dore video