2020 US Election (Part Two)

[Sommerswerd]

Is there any potential VP choice that would get the Cloud_Strife seal of approval?

No. And that is what underlies this insightful comment.

Elections not going to be won or lost in places where Uber liberals care about Harris.

The states with a significant number of progressive voters that would potentially refuse to hold their nose and vote for Harris are already so hopelessly blue that their rejection of Harris will probably not change the result of the state. There's huge numbers of folks like that in Connecticut and Oregon, but that's not going to change the fact that those states are voting blue regardless. And there's not enough folks like that in Ohio to make a difference. Ohio just doesn't roll like that.

I am choosing to look at this choice as the ultimate long-game/small-ball choice. It's a sacrifice bunt to score a run. It's kicking a field goal on 4th and goal. Get Trump out, stop the bleeding, and in 8 (or 4) years, try to move further left. Incidentally, AOC will be 35 come election day 2024. So if folks are looking to elect an ultra-progressive darling, that will be the time, in 2024 or 2028.

 

[EnglishEdward]

I don't think the dems need Fluorida.

Did you type that while you were swilling your teeth?

 

[Commodore]

I don't think the dems need Fluorida

Or Ohio if my prediction holds. In my prediction, Trump should win both Ohio and Florida, which is normally a big deal, but he's going to lose in so many other key states that winning those two simply won't matter.

 

[Farm Boy]

Incidentally, AOC will be 35 come election day 2024. So if folks are looking to elect an ultra-progressive darling, that will be the time, in 2024 or 2028.

It's only polite to clean that up when you drop it on the floor.

 

[Kyriakos]

Did you type that while you were swilling your teeth?

 

[Sommerswerd]

It's only polite to clean that up when you drop it on the floor.

Just vote for Biden and we'll cross that other bridge when we come to it...

 

[Farm Boy]

I'll give you that I'm voting against Trump. 4x.

I don't think I can vote for Harris on the ticket. Way too much too much on one of my key issues. But then again, most Democrats are full killbots on that one these days. Better than IL, still, probably.

Edit: Actually, I read the updated Biden issue tacking, it's not better anymore. F'em.

 

[Sommerswerd]

LOL. AOC it is then...

 

[Farm Boy]

Don't pretend anything changed? Well, other than new killbot status on the older one. That's under 12 months old at this point. Gross.

Sorry, just finding out he switched and I'm angry at this moment. I had assumed he was relatively safe on that one.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Nothing changed? Or something changed? What does that have to do with the price of apples? My point is that if you can't bring yourself to vote for Biden/Harris ... I mean its Biden for crissakes… then debating AOC isn't even worth the keystrokes, right?

 

[Farm Boy]

Oh no, nothing changed on AOC, that wasn't worth the keystrokes no. Just talking ****.

Did actually spur me to look up whether I was voting for a Democrat for POTUS, the disappointment with Biden is new. I had thought he was at least tolerable for me. I was a month behind. >.<

 

[El_Machinae]

Nikki Haley 2020!

 

[Farm Boy]

That'd be an interesting write-in. Maybe, would have to read more.

 

[IglooDame]

Nikki Haley 2020!

I'm wary of Palin-esque enthusiasm where I then get incredibly disappointed later.

That aside, I will vote for whatever candidate is most likely to defeat Donald Trump. Bush, Cruz, Bernie, Biden, AOC, does not matter. I'd be less bummed about some then others, sure, but I'm a one-issue voter this time around and that issue is Donald Trump's re-election. And ironically, Donald Trump and I are in complete agreement regarding this.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Oh no, nothing changed on AOC, that wasn't worth the keystrokes no. Just talking ****.

Did actually spur me to look up whether I was voting for a Democrat for POTUS, the disappointment with Biden is new. I had thought he was at least tolerable for me. I was a month behind. >.<

Give it another month, maybe you'll come around.

 

[Farm Boy]

If he reflops again, sure. Otherwise that write in is looking better.

 

[Patine]

If any candidate picked a hard left candidate as approved by this sub they would likely bleed votes where they need to win.

Bleed votes to whom?

 

[Patine]

I dunno, Ford got a carrier named after him.

As an anti-Imperialist, I'd view that as negative in a legacy.

 

[Zardnaar]

Bleed votes to whom?

In this case Trump in battleground states.

Trump's so repulsive maybe an actual progressive could win who knows.

As I said even if a progressive could win it's not a hot fix. It's going to take 25-40 years.

Trump might be that catalyst for real change though.

 

[Patine]

In this case Trump in battleground states.

Trump's so repulsive maybe an actual progressive could win who knows.

As I said even if a progressive could win it's not a hot fix. It's going to take 25-40 years.

Trump might be that catalyst for real change though.

So, who are the Anti-Police and Prison Abuse African-American voters going to bleed to with Harris as the VP choice? Certainly not Trump. Are you starting to FINALLY see how much a failure and a con-game the U.S. two-party system is, and no government "of the people, for the people, and by the people," is even remotely possible while these two criminal cartels hold illegal power through rigged and corruptly influenced elections (the crime these enigmatic Russian hackers were so venomous indicted for in 2016, but which the DNC, RNC, FEC, federal judges, and partisan media barons who no longer broadcast, but only propaganda, have been committing, and getting away with, in every election, for decades). Do you even begin to see the massive hoodwink over 400 million people you have no real choice in their leadership, but firmly believe they do!?