2020 US Election (Part Two)

[Sommerswerd]

So the DNC cackling while twisting the boot on the neck of the left wing of its party continues apace. They announced today that Colin Powell will be making remarks at the convention.

Surprised? Just another example that Biden is leaning hard into the"safe" route of courting moderates and/or "tacking to the center" As an aside,Colin Powell's endorsement was wildly praised when it was for Obama.

In any case, although I think "twisting the boot on the neck" is a little much in the context of this particular endorsement, I agree with you that the party is taking the same approach as in 2016, which is taking the left wing for granted and "appealing to moderate conservatives"... I will say that I'm not encouraged that it was worth it, given what I'm hearing from @Farm Boy and @Commodore . Maybe they should have just leaned harder into AOC and Sanders. AOCs shade tonight, whereby she only seconded Bernie Sanders' endorsement, was pretty telling. I had to listen to it twice to realize that she was actually co-signing Sanders' endorsement of Biden, rather than outright defying the party and endorsing Bernie Sanders. I can see now why they only gave her 1 minute (which she exceeded)... she refused to give the ringing endorsement of Biden that they wanted, but they absolutely needed to include her anyway, because of how popular she is.

Just more evidence that maybe its time to embrace AOC's left and abandon "the center"... especially if even moderate conservatives can't get behind someone like Biden.

She would've been my preferred "woman of color" over Harris

Warren was my first choice for POTUS... she is not a "woman of color".

[I just saw AOC nominate Sanders for President, btw. The left wing of the party might really force the party to turn leftwards this next cycle, like the Tea Party forced the GOP into their own new type of policies]

She "seconded" Sanders' nomination of Biden, but yes it was obviously defiantly throwing shade at Biden and indicating that she still preferred Sanders.

In any case, the Tea Party thrived where the Republicans lost for the second time. A Biden win will not fuel the same sort of reaction. Only a Trump re-election would potentially create a liberal version of the Tea Party.

 

[Zardnaar]

And how would a liberal tea party fare in the mid west/Ohio/Texas/Florida?

 

[Sommerswerd]

Poorly

 

[Commodore]

Warren was my first choice for POTUS... she is not a "woman of color"

Has anyone told her that? Because she seems to believe she is.

 

[Lexicus]

Poorly

It might not do as badly as you think in Texas given the growing Latino vote there. Keep in mind, Latinos went pretty decisively for Bernie this year.

 

[IglooDame]

I concede a huge amount of bias in saying this, but I don't think the endorsements are tacking one way or another as much as they're making the point that "everyone who isn't a Trumpet wants Joe Biden to win this election". Thus John Kasich and Colin Powell on one side, and Bernie and Warren and AOC on the other.

Policies? What policies. Look at who is currently president. STFU and go vote for Biden, we'll figure out policies in 2021.

 

[Gorbles]

Policies? What policies. Look at who is currently president. STFU and go vote for Biden, we'll figure out policies in 2021.

The problem with this, regardless of how correct it is, is that "vote and we'll figure out how to make things better later" is exactly the refrain from 2016. And likely before that.

Every new electoral cycle this gets trotted out as what people have to do, regardless of it being appropriate advice, the less effective it gets. I'm not knocking your point exactly, but you (and others) really need to understand where the voter apathy is coming from.

 

[Kyriakos]

The problem with this, regardless of how correct it is, is that "vote and we'll figure out how to make things better later" is exactly the refrain from 2016. And likely before that.

Every new electoral cycle this gets trotted out as what people have to do, regardless of it being appropriate advice, the less effective it gets. I'm not knocking your point exactly, but you (and others) really need to understand where the voter apathy is coming from.

They don't want to understand.
While I hope Biden won't manage to lose, obviously he is another extremely lame candidate, and so is his VP (which may even get to become potus without anyone voting her for president).
I won't be surprised if Biden loses. I just hope he won't.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Has anyone told her that? Because she seems to believe she is.

Trump has. But to my greater point... if you personally wouldn't have voted for her, that issue doesn't really matter... and since I'm pretty sure you wouldn't... it doesn't matter.

 

[Farm Boy]

They're killbots. When they stop having a hard-on for not only 300,000 kills a year, but smearing everyone's face in it like a mean idiot punishing a dog, we'll talk. Probably not though, I get the feeling the entire party is a bunch of hard-on killbots most of the way down with a penchant for cruelty with their dogs.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Coronavirus is already passed 300,000 kills a year, so miss me with that argument. In fact, at the rate we're going, its fast on its way to approaching 300,000 kills a year, in the US alone.

 

[Farm Boy]

Yeah, I was talking about every year, right here at home. But yes. Sounds like Biden voters and Assclown voters are just built for each other. Strategy seems solid enough I can't even tell them apart.

 

[Sommerswerd]

It might not do as badly as you think in Texas given the growing Latino vote there. Keep in mind, Latinos went pretty decisively for Bernie this year.

You dream...

 

[Sommerswerd]

Yeah, I was talking about every year, right here at home. But yes. Sounds like Biden voters and Assclown voters are just built for each other. Strategy seems solid enough I can't even tell them apart.

Seems to me that was the thinking exactly. After all, they're all Americans... one nation, and all that... but like I said... unsure if that was a sound approach. Maybe they should have pretended that Americans are different and that some Americans weren't going to support them regardless, and tried instead to appeal to Americans who actually would.

 

[amadeus]

@Sommerswerd, did they record the audio onto a wax cylinder before uploading it?

 

[Farm Boy]

<shrug> Like was argued, the function could be handled with fungibility. But the form... the cruelty is the point. You think there was one on the table the killocrats would have gone for sans that?

 

[Kyriakos]

@Sommerswerd, did they record the audio onto a wax cylinder before uploading it?

When one likes something, they become unaware of its many flaws.
For some it has no upper bound, and actual worth of the item was never a parameter.

 

[Farm Boy]

It's just a recording using a phone or something off a TV. Oofda.

 

[Sommerswerd]

@Sommerswerd, did they record the audio onto a wax cylinder before uploading it?

Who is "they"?

<shrug> Like was argued, the function could be handled with fungibility. But the form... the cruelty is the point. You think there was one on the table the killocrats would have gone for sans that?

As long as we're talking about the nebulous "they"... it doesn't matter who they would have gone for. What matters is who you would have gone for. Name that person, and we'll talk. Otherwise its just smoke and bullfeathers.

 

[Farm Boy]

I'm particularly mad because Biden had been at least palatable pre-killbot flop. But hey, this is the party in my state that pulled late term restrictions and made money a kosher reason for an otherwise viable, so I'm guessing they're more on the pulse(ha!) than I am.