2020 US Election (Part One)

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You suggested that Bernie would only bring in about half of the usual Democratic vote. I took this to suggest that moderate Democrats would give him a pass. Did you have another scenario in mind?
Yeah. I was actually considering the fact that registered Democrats are only about thirty percent of the electorate. They determine the nominee in the primaries, but if they nominate someone who doesn't draw the "typically vote for the Democrat but don't feel so strongly they register as one" then they face a difficult battle. A more difficult battle than I think is necessary.
I thought you were in Palmdale, that might be a step up from Barstow but Fartwhistle Nevada is just over the horizon

Palmdale is an LA suburb. Which doesn't keep it from being bigger than the fourth largest city in Sweden all by itself.
 
Its been ~30 years since I was there, I imagine its been growing as people try to stay near the LA basin without having to actually live in it 24/7
 
Its been ~30 years since I was there, I imagine its been growing as people try to stay near the LA basin without having to actually live in it 24/7

LA is like a giant suburb with not much urb to it...and we're the edge.
 
Yeah. I was actually considering the fact that registered Democrats are only about thirty percent of the electorate.

Does this factor in that 22 states don't do party registrations?
 
Does this factor in that 22 states don't do party registrations?

Sort of. It also sort of factors in the fact that in some states you have to be registered to one of the two parties to participate in the primary elections at all, so there are people who register with a party that they may not be really strongly interested in supporting. It's basically just an extrapolation from the states where registering with a party can be done but isn't required. In those states, generally, about thirty percent claim to be independent even though few of them really are.
 
Hopefully the centrist zombies will realize you can't stop the GOP by electing people who want to compromise with it.

"Third way" parties have collapsed everywhere in the west, but some still act as if it is the mid 90s.

I think that most Americans are just tired of the Middle East and its ongoing, never ending problems. They want us out and hope it will just go away. Unless, they are evangelical Christians who need a war against Israel to trigger the Second Coming. Those are the dangerous ones.

Don't you mean "a war in support of Israel"? You do know that the prophesy you refer to is about Israel demolishing the muslim stuff in that hill and building again what temple it had there? :p
 
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"Third way" parties have collapsed everywhere in the west
Given that ‘third way’ was once a name for corporatist, democratic-only-for-formalities parties that developed from the original fascism, I'd say that they are anything but collapsed.
 
Given that ‘third way’ was once a name for corporatist, democratic-only-for-formalities parties that developed from the original fascism, I'd say that they are anything but collapsed.

You know what was meant :satan:
Clinton-Blair etc. Aka 'centrism' in 'Merica and 'champagne socialism' in Europe.
 
Given that the German analogue is at risk of falling to the Nazis rebranded as AfD rather than to the Greens or Socialists that is certainly not something to be happy about.
 
Given that the German analogue is at risk of falling to the Nazis rebranded as AfD rather than to the Greens or Socialists that is certainly not something to be happy about.

Still less sinister than in Austria-Hungary or the baltics. NfD may be the future - as well as the near past.
 
Evidence Tulsi Gabbard can beat Trump, Joy Behar of 'The View' wanted to smear Tulsi so she claimed white nationalist Richard Spencer said he could vote for Gabbard.

Could the Democrats here vote for Gabbard if Spencer voted for her?
 
Evidence Tulsi Gabbard can beat Trump, Joy Behar of 'The View' wanted to smear Tulsi so she claimed white nationalist Richard Spencer said he could vote for Gabbard.

Could the Democrats here vote for Gabbard if Spencer voted for her?


not a democrat but I will say I could not care less who Spencer votes for and would not allow it to change my vote. I don't like Gabbard because I think she is faking all of it. I wonder if she knows what she stands for.
 
Don't you mean "a war in support of Israel"? You do know that the prophesy you refer to is about Israel demolishing the muslim stuff in that hill and building again what temple it had there? :p
There are multiple version of the war (Armageddon) depending upon which sect of Christianity you talk about. My point is that for many Christians, war in the ME is a good thing.
 
You mentioned Israel, so which other version did you have in mind that has crazies wanting to fight against Israel instead of helping it kill muslim stuff?
None in particular. The enemies of Jesus are quite numerous and not just the Muslims. Russia, China, Turkey have all been identified as the "King of the North". The end times are upon us!

http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/end-times-news.html
 
None in particular. The enemies of Jesus are quite numerous and not just the Muslims. Russia, China, Turkey have all been identified as the "King of the North". The end times are upon us!

http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/end-times-news.html

Yeah well, I hope it is Turkey too :p

Daniel 11:45 King James Version (KJV)
45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
 
Is everyone in Sweden a rude little arrogant prig? Or is it just Swedes from podunkeries that are smaller than Fartwhistle? Oh, hey, that's like all of Sweden put together, right? Since when you say "Fartwhistle" you're actually talking about LA.

Most Swedes are very polite. I’m not, I usually give as good as I get. So, let’s rightfully assume you are correct about having a better grasp of the general opinion in America and I fully agree that should at least be the case. You also have Estebonrober backing up your claim that Americans are more into the genocidal idea of glassing troublesome nations. I’ve seen no other Americans here dispute that argument, which is unsettling, but as such I’m willing to accept it as general opinion.

You know I support Bernie. I do it mainly on account of the wealth and income inequality issues and the effect of hollowing out democracy in particular. I think Bernie is the most electable candidate in the race because of his clarity on the issues he has consistently fought for over forty years and add to that he is the original on many of the great issues of the debates so far like MFA, GND and an economy that works for all. He is also against opportunistic MIC driven foreign intervention, which I’ve now recently learned from you and Estebon apparently makes him less electable, or have little or no impact to most Americans in general, which is a shame, but it’s still an issue I personally strongly support.

Please, for clarity, who is your favourite democratic candidate so far Tim? I assume it’s someone more to the centre but I have no idea? What are the main issues that candidate run that makes you believe it’s the best choice for America at this point in time? And since you are so deeply concerned with electability – what is this candidates strong points in regard to electability?

You see to me you just seem like an empty can rattling around aimlessly picking arbitrary arguments after Hillary lost in 2016 but I’ve already been proven wrong once in this discussion and I’m open to try better understand your perspective if you open up a little about it. Maybe most people here know, but I really don’t.
 
Most Swedes are very polite. I’m not, I usually give as good as I get. So, let’s rightfully assume you are correct about having a better grasp of the general opinion in America and I fully agree that should at least be the case. You also have Estebonrober backing up your claim that Americans are more into the genocidal idea of glassing troublesome nations. I’ve seen no other Americans here dispute that argument, which is unsettling, but as such I’m willing to accept it as general opinion.

You know I support Bernie. I do it mainly on account of the wealth and income inequality issues and the effect of hollowing out democracy in particular. I think Bernie is the most electable candidate in the race because of his clarity on the issues he has consistently fought for over forty years and add to that he is the original on many of the great issues of the debates so far like MFA, GND and an economy that works for all. He is also against opportunistic MIC driven foreign intervention, which I’ve now recently learned from you and Estebon apparently makes him less electable, or have little or no impact to most Americans in general, which is a shame, but it’s still an issue I personally strongly support.

Please, for clarity, who is your favourite democratic candidate so far Tim? I assume it’s someone more to the centre but I have no idea? What are the main issues that candidate run that makes you believe it’s the best choice for America at this point in time? And since you are so deeply concerned with electability – what is this candidates strong points in regard to electability?

You see to me you just seem like an empty can rattling around aimlessly picking arbitrary arguments after Hillary lost in 2016 but I’ve already been proven wrong once in this discussion and I’m open to try better understand your perspective if you open up a little about it. Maybe most people here know, but I really don’t.

Yea I mean especially since its an all volunteer army. Most Americans don;t even know anyone who serves, or if they do they are removed from it by quite a lot. This leads to ignorance that heretofore was not possible when there was a draft. Considering my opinion of the American electorate these days none of this is surprising. They don't pay attention, they don't read, they are susceptible to pitiful propaganda.
 
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